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Can I turn up to an abgas test and fail it with no consequences? I think I might need to change one or more of my car's EGR valves/injectors

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Can I turn up to an abgas test and fail it with no consequences? I think I might need to change one or more of my car's EGR valves/injectors

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What Abgas test? How old is your car?
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Re: Oh Abgas!

You don't need the abgastest if your car has OBD and is Euro III or later.

As long as the check engine light comes on before starting, and goes out after then that qualifies as an emissions pass.

http://www.agvs-upsa.ch/de/dienstlei...st/abgasanlage
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Re: Oh Abgas!

It's from 2006 (has a Euro3 engine), I imported it from Belgium and it's never seen a garage here (I do all maintenance work/servicing myself).

I was specifically told by Uetligarage Land Rover that I needed this at the time I imported it. I'm pretty sure I had that OBD conversation with them. God knows I use that port enough!

So they sold me a bit of paper that said Land Rover Abgas, I obtained a test pass from ATU and certainly had it with me for my first MFK. Might I have set a precedent for myself?

Fantastic news if I don't need one.... it's expired
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I was specifically told by Uetligarage Land Rover that I needed this at the time I imported it.

So they sold me a bit of paper that said Land Rover Abgas, I obtained a test pass from ATU and certainly had it with me for my first MFK. Might I have set a precedent for myself?
No. The requirement was dropped in 2013 (mentioned in the above linked article). Presumably you imported if before that date.
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You'll find what you want to know in this paper.

https://www.auto.swiss/fileadmin/5_S...tung2013_d.pdf
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No. The requirement was dropped in 2013 (mentioned in the above linked article). Presumably you imported if before that date.
I imported it 2 years ago in 2015...

So it looks like the Dealership introduced an unnecessary requirement for me just to sell me a Land Rover abgas booklet, and ATU went along with it to charge me for the abgas
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Nuts. I need an abgas because my car has a diesel Euro 3 engine. I would need a Euro 4 engine to not need an abgas certificate
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Re: Oh Abgas!

Interesting. Got me thinking and looking at the differences, planning as I am to buy a Landy myself in the nearish future. Yours is presumably the TD5, which is what I've been looking at, whereas the later Ford-engined TD4 is Euro5 certified.

Not given much thought to what the Euro ratings actually mean, but a puzzle comes of of it nonetheless. How come the CO2 emissions are slightly lower, at 295g/km for the later model compared with 299 but the fuel consumption figures are actually slightly worse? I'd have assumed a direct link between the two measures, so is this indicative of the official consumption figures being less meaningful, or is my basic assumption incorrect.

In any event I think I'll keep my search limited to the TD5 model - who would want a Land-Rover with a Ford motor in it anyway?
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