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Too loud car inside?

Hey guys.

I own Audi S4 Avant from 2010 and I have assumed even though the car is almost 8 years old, premium league, with no road incidents (at least what I was told in AMAG while buying), that it should be quite silent inside while driving with a highway speed.

When I go 120km/h there is this air noise that forces me to close all the windows while being shut... Literally you can think as if the door gaskets (I hope I used the right term) were too old and needed replacement. I'm not saying it's super loud but it's a bit annoying to hear it for long hours.

Anyone had such experience a similar class car?

I'm thinking of contacting a car expert who would measure the noise officially against the manufacturer's guidelines and I could report that back to AMAG as per (still valid) "occassion" guarantee.
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Old 30.10.2017, 23:15
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Re: Too loud car inside?

You're kidding, right? Was it too loud when you test drove it? The car is used. Unless it's severe (as in a door seal or Bailey channel missing) they'll just smile at you.

It would probably cost you a packet to have it measured, and AMAG will probably just say "Different measuring protocol to the reference values.".
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Hey guys.

I own Audi S4 Avant from 2010 and I have assumed even though the car is almost 8 years old, premium league, with no road incidents (at least what I was told in AMAG while buying), that it should be quite silent inside while driving with a highway speed.

When I go 120km/h there is this air noise that forces me to close all the windows while being shut... Literally you can think as if the door gaskets (I hope I used the right term) were too old and needed replacement. I'm not saying it's super loud but it's a bit annoying to hear it for long hours.

Anyone had such experience a similar class car?

I'm thinking of contacting a car expert who would measure the noise officially against the manufacturer's guidelines and I could report that back to AMAG as per (still valid) "occassion" guarantee.
Buy some earplugs, an S model will never be the quietest.
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Re: Too loud car inside?

Nothing you could not easily have spotted during a testdrive.
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Re: Too loud car inside?

Is this a recent development? When did you last check your exhaust pipe?
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Re: Too loud car inside?

If it's air noise from the windows it's caused by the windows seals being too old, but those can be changed. There is no need for expensive noise tests and such.
Not sure about the warranty though, I would say it's normal wear and tear, unless you have some extra packages...
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Re: Too loud car inside?

Well there was me thinking that VAG only let more gas out of their cars in real world conditions.
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Is it a rapid but dull thumping noise which can be loud enough to kill any conversation and radio noise?

Ours makes such a noise if one window (or a second window on the same side) is open. The noise goes away if you open a window on the other side of the car or open the sunroof a touch.

It's the air pressure vs the wind outside.
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Re: Too loud car inside?

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Nothing you could not easily have spotted during a testdrive.
To be fair it is not something that could be 'easily noticed' within a short test drive, as that is very different experience to living with a car before having the chance to cruise for hours upon which time road noise takes on a different aspect.

Expecting an S4 to be a "quiet motorway cruiser" is perhaps a tad unrealistic, but if it is air noise caused by bad seals then it should be able to be improved.

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Re: Too loud car inside?

you sure its air noise not tire noise? had some older tires on my car that in the end made it sound like a bearing had failed, replaced them and now its quiet as a mouse
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Re: Too loud car inside?

Make sure it is not tire tread noise. Some tires get noisier as the tread wears down, and noisier at certain speeds and road surfaces. Opening and closing windows would simply increase or attenuate the tread noise.

Otherwise simply take it in to AMAG and calmly say "What can you tell me about this?"
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Re: Too loud car inside?

Ha! BB2 quicker on the keyboard than I.
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Re: Too loud car inside?

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Hey guys.

I own Audi S4 Avant from 2010 and I have assumed even though the car is almost 8 years old, premium league, with no road incidents (at least what I was told in AMAG while buying), that it should be quite silent inside while driving with a highway speed.

When I go 120km/h there is this air noise that forces me to close all the windows while being shut... Literally you can think as if the door gaskets (I hope I used the right term) were too old and needed replacement. I'm not saying it's super loud but it's a bit annoying to hear it for long hours.

Anyone had such experience a similar class car?

I'm thinking of contacting a car expert who would measure the noise officially against the manufacturer's guidelines and I could report that back to AMAG as per (still valid) "occassion" guarantee.
First of all, what car did you have before? If you had a car such as a S-Class, VW Phaeton, etc., then a S4 will indeed be noisy.

I haven't driven that generation of the S4 but I too get annoyed with wind noise even on premium cars.
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Old 31.10.2017, 11:37
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Re: Too loud car inside?

If you stand at the front and back of the car, and look at the doors: are the doors correctly fitted, no metal sticking out, all flush lines? Does water leak into the car in the car wash?

Rubber does age with time. I suggest you ask the garage to replace all the rubber seals, ask for a quote, but I don't think it will be very expensive, especially if you get the work done in Germany, - forget the warranty, that will not be covered.
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Re: Too loud car inside?

If you could make a recording and upload it, then perhaps the EF experts can make a Sound judgement on it.
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Re: Too loud car inside?

you can also spray on some silicon lubricant to check if its the seal, any place that sell car wax's should sell it, usually specifically stated its door seal lubricant / protection, doesn't last very long but will only cost you a few chuff's rather then many hundreds replacing seals that aren't faulty

but my money is on tires, or just one of your doors needs adjusting.
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Re: Too loud car inside?

Thanks to all who indeed added value to the topic. I will check the doors fitting or get the rubber replaced.

I've driven cars for years and can distinguish between the sound of engine, exhaust, tires etc... I'm not saying that S4 must be quiet as Tesla, but this is not a sound I would expect with the speed of 100-120km/h with low rpm on high gear.

And no... I didn't notice this during my test drive. I was more focused on other things and it didn't come to my mind to listen to the wind noise from the potential window/door "leakiness".
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Re: Too loud car inside?

Get some Justin Biever CD, hear it a couple of times while driving, open all the windows, throw the CD as far as you can and just enjoy the sound of the wind coming through the windows....


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Get some Justin Biever CD, hear it a couple of times while driving, open all the windows, throw the CD as far as you can and just enjoy the sound of the wind coming through the windows....
Not a bad idea! Let me put it as plan B
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Thanks to all who indeed added value to the topic. I will check the doors fitting or get the rubber replaced.

I've driven cars for years and can distinguish between the sound of engine, exhaust, tires etc... I'm not saying that S4 must be quiet as Tesla, but this is not a sound I would expect with the speed of 100-120km/h with low rpm on high gear.

And no... I didn't notice this during my test drive. I was more focused on other things and it didn't come to my mind to listen to the wind noise from the potential window/door "leakiness".
Does the window have a frame, or is it just the glass against the rubber seal? My wife's TT roadster also has a slightly annoying wind noise from the frameless windows, but we always accepted it as part of having the semi soft-top, which is still many times quieter than the folding vinyl roofs of yesteryear.
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