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Steel rims type approval?

Hi all,

It's that time of year again to mount the winter tires on our vehicles, and I was thinking about putting some winter tires on my second car this year (a 1994 MX-5).

The thing is, I want to use steel wheels from a 2014 Toyota Aygo/Peugeot 108/Citroen C1, because they fit perfectly, in terms of offset (<2% track width difference), axle fit of 54,1mm, 4x100 bolt pattern and 15x4,5 inch size. The make and model is Alcar 7510.

How should I go about obtaining the teilegutachten for these wheels? Should I ask the local StVA if they have them in the system? Should I contact Alcar if they have them approved? Or ask Toyota/Peugeot/Citroen importer about the teilegutachten?

So far I have contacted a distributor for these wheels in Switzerland, but they do not have any gutachten for their wheels... They told me the following:

"Erfahrungsgemäß können wir Ihnen bestätigen, dass Kompletträder eingetragen werden können, wenn eine ABE und ein Gutachten vorliegt und wenn alle im Gutachten genannten Auflagen erfüllt sind."

Any thoughts that might help me get these wheels approved for my car, that won't cost me 1000CHF or more?
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Re: Steel rims type approval?

Go to a tyre outlet and get a TARGA-Tyre extract for your car. They will need the type approval number which can be found in the gray paper.

On the extract you will see which rims (material, diameter, width, offset, etc) are pre-approved and do not need any additional paper.
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Re: Steel rims type approval?

Thanks for the tip, I will try that!

Any hunch if "which rims (material, diameter, width, offset, etc) are pre-approved" will also work for non-native rims, in my case non-Mazda rims on a Mazda? Or is the pre-approval a more general one for Swiss use, i.e. not specific to a car make and model?
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Thanks for the tip, I will try that!

Any hunch if "which rims (material, diameter, width, offset, etc) are pre-approved" will also work for non-native rims, in my case non-Mazda rims on a Mazda? Or is the pre-approval a more general one for Swiss use, i.e. not specific to a car make and model?
You need to match all but only does properties listed on the TARGA extract.
In best case only diameter, width, offset is listed. In the worst case manufacturer, material, diameter, width, and offset are listed.

The pre-approval is for your very specific car type/model.
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Re: Steel rims type approval?

They seem to be a bit narrow at 4.5 inches. If I were you I'd just go and buy some genuine Mazda MX5 wheels or at least ones made specifically for the car. They can't be expensive. Or just use them and not have them entered on the papers.
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They seem to be a bit narrow at 4.5 inches. If I were you I'd just go and buy some genuine Mazda MX5 wheels or at least ones made specifically for the car. They can't be expensive. Or just use them and not have them entered on the papers.
I want the narrow ones on purpose, because it makes the car more fun when the weather gets nasty
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