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Buying a used car

Hello all. Iím not sure Iím going about this correctly, but it appears that there arenít any questions of this type in recent posts.
We have lived in Switzerland for 9+ months now. We love the public transportation here, and we were hoping to go without a car for the few years we will be here. However, we now find ourselves needing a vehicle. Iím about to have a baby (in a month), and the hospital is not near our home, we have two other children, we live in a small village which makes shopping a bit arduous in the best of conditions, and to top it off iím on crutches for the foreseeable future.

We are looking to spend the very least for a reliable car. I just need the thing not to break down in the next year, or need repairs soon, seat at least five people, and hopefully be somewhere in the $3,000 range.
From what Iíve read, and the experiences of other expats, this is totally doable; I just donít know much about the cars here. From old posts, people have very strong opinions about most things regarding cars, and Iím hoping to pick your collective wisdom as to how best go about this venture.
Are there companies to avoid? Are there things I should look for? What would you do in my situation? Iíve been scouring Autoscout, but I am hoping for a few poInters as I feel lost with all that is the on offer there.

Thank you in advance.
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Re: Buying a used car

How about if you start off really simply right there in Ehrendingen?

On Kirchweg you have got several garages, likely all good ol' honest country folk.Go from one to the other and tell each what you have written here. This will give you the opportunity to get the real feel of what you are looking for, getting to know some local people who could be happy to help you and maybe look after you as you go.

Contrary to popular opinion there are some good peeps around.

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Re: Buying a used car

3K is doable, but you need to either know enough about cars to spot the moneypits, or bring someone along who does.

Try asking at a local garage. They sometimes have something themselves, or a customer who is trying to get rid of a used car.
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Re: Buying a used car

Give tutti a try: https://www.tutti.ch/aargau/nachbark...te?f=p&pe=5000

I set the filter for anything less the 5K. Normally folks ask too much and expect to sell for less. Human nature. But the prices here seem reasonable.

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How about if you start off really simply right there in Ehrendingen?
Thank you for your response! We resolved that this would be our plan. I just wasn't sure if there was advice as to what to avoid, certain models and the like. I really don't know what I'm doing here.
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3K is doable, but you need to either know enough about cars to spot the moneypits, or bring someone along who does.

Try asking at a local garage. They sometimes have something themselves, or a customer who is trying to get rid of a used car.
Thank you! I don't know anyone who knows about cars, unfortunately. Is there a service that does this?
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Give tutti a try: https://www.tutti.ch/aargau/nachbark...te?f=p&pe=5000

I set the filter for anything less the 5K. Normally folks ask too much and expect to sell for less. Human nature. But the prices here seem reasonable.

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Thank you, this link is very helpful!
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Thank you! I don't know anyone who knows about cars, unfortunately. Is there a service that does this?
https://www.tcs.ch/de/ does an inspection service, but you need to take the car to them (which may end up being a hassle if you're dealing with private sellers). Membership is 87 CHF/year (Get a membership.)

Your best bet is a local garage. The smaller ones don't have enough space to store downmarket cars which are completely trashed, so they scrap them pretty quickly. If yours does have something in your price range then they've been keeping it because they know it won't be a headache - neither for you, nor for them.

The exporters make the rounds of the shops about once a week, that's why you don't see many garages with wrecks parked around the side.
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Re: Buying a used car

The car will probably not be fancy and will of course have a higher number of km on it and will probably be in the 10 year old range as well. This is not necessarily a problem if it is not a lemon (be sure to check if there have been multiple owners as this is often an indication of a problem car).

As others have mentioned, I would suggest you go to a local garage as well. Buying something at that price from "a stranger", even with a check by TCS or other has higher risk.

The added point I would make is that the car has to have been serviced by the garage you are buying it from over the last "few years". This means that they know the car intimately and have hopefully made all of the changes that are required (such as timing belt at 120k km etc.) that will mean you will just have the regular stuff.

You should also ask them what you should expect. Next time (km) for brakes, tires etc.

The car MUST pass the MKF before you buy it. You also want a copy and an explanation of any issues that needed to be resolved.

Tires are normally the most immediate expense. Ideally the car will have a full set of summer/winter mounted on rims. For a car of that price, normally on black steel rims. Check the date of manufacture of the tires. On one side of the tire you will find an oval with four numbers eg. 4215. This means the tire was produced in the 42nd week of 2015. Ask them to show you this code. Don't count anything older than 3-4 years as useful especially for second quality tires (so count new tires in your budget). I can help with this (internet purchasing) if needed.
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The car MUST pass the MKF before you buy it.
There is no legal requirement for it to do so, so no MUST.

You don't even need it before registering it.

However, it is a very good idea unless you know what you are doing, I have certainly bought vehicles with no recent MFK.

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There is no legal requirement for it to do so, so no MUST.

However, it is a very good idea unless you know what you are doing, I have certainly bought vehicles with no recent MFK.

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Tom, we are not talking about what you have done.

The OP has show that she is not car smart so she should in no case buy a car that has not passed a very recent MFK (the day before type of thing) and from a garage where it has been serviced.
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The OP has show that she is not car smart so she should in no case buy a car that has not passed a very recent MFK (the day before type of thing) and from a garage where it has been serviced.
In which case you should say that, as the MUST will be confusing to others interested in buying a used vehicle.

But, yes, I agree with you in this case.

Most of the used cars that we have bought were either from the local garage, or from a used car seller that we know and trust, and all have come with fresh MFK (bikes, sometimes not), though our last car purchase had no guarantee, which was fine with me, the one issue it had was a well known coil pack problem, sorted for CHF 100 in parts from the US, and an hour of my time.

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https://www.tcs.ch/de/ does an inspection service, but you need to take the car to them (which may end up being a hassle if you're dealing with private sellers). Membership is 87 CHF/year (Get a membership.)

Your best bet is a local garage. The smaller ones don't have enough space to store downmarket cars which are completely trashed, so they scrap them pretty quickly. If yours does have something in your price range then they've been keeping it because they know it won't be a headache - neither for you, nor for them.

The exporters make the rounds of the shops about once a week, that's why you don't see many garages with wrecks parked around the side.
This is such useful information. Thank you very much! This is absolutely the kind of information I was hoping for. We will looking into a TCS membership.
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Re: Buying a used car

hello, same thread but a different angle, i looked at second hand cars out of curiosity, and was dumbfounded at the prices, compared to a new car.
a 10 year old nissan with 160k on the clock was 5k chf ,in the uk, a similar car would be 300 pounds,okay you get the warranty, but really
if you check out the big dealers ,ie in wetzikon,or uster,next to the autobahn.
they often have end of line models,brand new, with anything up to 50 percent off,right now in wetzikon there is a new punto at 8k, not the most luxurios, but with a 5 k deposit, the finance would be miniscule over the duration of the cars economic life,and a new punto is good trouble free for about 8 years(from personal ,and friends experience).
there is a new nissan note half price at 15k, with minimum deposit the finance is 233 a month,(a diesal, and they only need servicing every two years) that car will go on forever, trouble free,my own almera is 14 years old,one new clutch is all it has needed.avoid big flashy motors,as they cost a fortune in servicing and repairs,sometimes paying extra for a new reliable car can be better vfm if you keep it long enough, and yes my grammer is c..p
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If you have a town's newspaper try placing an ad saying you buy a car as a private person.
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Re: Buying a used car

Hi guys! just a quick question regarding buying a new car...

I was planning to buy a car on saturday if everything goes well, its not in the same canton as I live, what could I do on Saturday?
How should I pay it if i want to buy it?
Should i be able to get the insurance the same day?
Would i be able to take it home straight away?

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How should I pay it if i want to buy it?
Cash.

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No, as first you need to get plates (after it is insured), and they aren't open on the weekend.

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Re: Buying a used car

Thanks Tom!

So I guess I will just see the car then...
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Thanks Tom!

So I guess I will just see the car then...
And the rust!
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Thanks Tom!

So I guess I will just see the car then...
...always better to have a sober look before you leap...
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