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Manual driving licence

Hello all,

So, I have RTFF but couldn't find the answer to this one.

So, after forgetting to convert my driving licence and having it expired, I finally went through the hell that is Swiss driving licence process and got a shiny new one couple of years ago. I did the entire process on my own without a instructor and while doing so did not realise that by giving the test with an automatic car my licence will be not let me drive manual transmission cars.

So, to cut the story short, I am now looking to convert my driving licence from automatic only to automatic/manual. But for the life of me, I cannot find any information to do so on the Strassenverkehrsamt website or on this forum.

Does anyone have any idea on how such a conversion is done?

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Old 16.01.2018, 15:29
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Hello all,

So, after forgetting to convert my driving licence and having it expired, I finally went through the hell that is Swiss driving licence process and got a shiny new one couple of years ago.
Not sure why you went this route instead of getting an driving record extract from your home country stating you had a valid license in the past, but there might be a good reason.

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But for the life of me, I cannot find any information to do so on the Strassenverkehrsamt website or on this forum.

Does anyone have any idea on how such a conversion is done?
Write them an email or call them. Who than they will know best what to do?

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Old 16.01.2018, 15:31
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Hello all,

So, I have RTFF but couldn't find the answer to this one.

So, after forgetting to convert my driving licence and having it expired, I finally went through the hell that is Swiss driving licence process and got a shiny new one couple of years ago. I did the entire process on my own without a instructor and while doing so did not realise that by giving the test with an automatic car my licence will be not let me drive manual transmission cars.

So, to cut the story short, I am now looking to convert my driving licence from automatic only to automatic/manual. But for the life of me, I cannot find any information to do so on the Strassenverkehrsamt website or on this forum.

Does anyone have any idea on how such a conversion is done?

Cheers
In Zurich you have to take a test in a manual car. Daughter passed last summer in an auto and that was what she was told by her instructor, however she has zero interest in anything with three pedals.
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In Zurich you have to take a test in a manual car.
Hard to imagine that anywhere would not need a retest. Was always like that back in the UK, based (I always assumed) that anyone taking it in an auto would be doing so only because they felt a manual would be too difficult at the time. Although am I right in thinking that the US makes no distinction?

TBF these days I could imagine not realising the distinction if you're taking the test without doing lessons first, what with so many cars now having semi-automatic boxes (VW's DSG, for example) as standard, often with no full manual iron) meaning that it's much less of a conscious decision to go for an auto than it used to be when slush-boxes were a more expensive and less efficient "luxury" option.
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Old 16.01.2018, 16:15
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am I right in thinking that the US makes no distinction?
Not that I'm aware of.

I took my test on an automatic at 16, even though all except two cars I've ever owned have been manuals.

However, I do know how to drive a manual without using the clutch, something I've had to do on at least three occasions, including a V8 Camaro in rush hour traffic.

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Since the reasoning is that changing the gear manually must not distract you, i.e. it must come "automatic", it's not relevant to all situations. Parking and driving on a motoray come to mind.

So I'd expect for it to be a partial test focused on an inner city drive.
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I don't know the official process myself, but I assume they will ask you to redo the practical exam with a manual car. Call StVA to be sure.
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Re: Manual driving licence

I am in the same situation. I inquired with strassenverkehrsamt.

Here is how it works -

You have to pass the test with manual car (apply for a driving test, fix appointment).
If you pass the test, they will convert your licence to full.

If you fail, you still keep your automatic driving licence.

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I am in the same situation. I inquired with strassenverkehrsamt.

Here is how it works -

You have to pass the test with manual car (apply for a driving test, fix appointment).
If you pass the test, they will convert your licence to full.

If you fail, you still keep your automatic driving licence.

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Do you have to do the full test? Including the parts where manual has no material influence?
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Do you have to do the full test? Including the parts where manual has no material influence?
it has influence everywhere, especially for the special manoeuvers and start stop traffic.

perhaps you can skip driving on the highway.
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however she has zero interest in anything with three pedals.
That is incredibly sad to read


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Although am I right in thinking that the US makes no distinction?
The US makes no distinction between automatic and manual vehicles when issuing a drivers license. Take your test on either, and your legal to drive both
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Do you have to do the full test? Including the parts where manual has no material influence?

Dont know. I have dont done the test yet, but I guess it will be regular practical test. I plan to finish it in a month or so, will update this place.
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You have to pass the test with manual car (apply for a driving test, fix appointment).
Did you get a learners permit or how are you allowed to practice?
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Re: Manual driving licence

curious question - does anyone check if you are driving with 2 pedals or 3?
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curious question - does anyone check if you are driving with 2 pedals or 3?
The chance of being stopped and checked is low.
But the shit will hit the fan once you get yourself into an accident
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Did you get a learners permit or how are you allowed to practice?
Maybe an "L" on the back and accompany driver is enough for practice drives.
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Old 19.01.2018, 17:41
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Not that I'm aware of.

I took my test on an automatic at 16, even though all except two cars I've ever owned have been manuals.

However, I do know how to drive a manual without using the clutch, something I've had to do on at least three occasions, including a V8 Camaro in rush hour traffic.

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Re: Manual driving licence

When I was in HS we had a token VW Bug, so we could practice on a manual.

Even though I only got to drive it twice I got hooked on manuals for life.

By the way, one year the graduating seniors decided, as a prank to carry the dam thing into the cafeteria. It was not so easy but they managed it and if I remember right the principle had a fit.
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Re: Manual driving licence

Just to update, as of February 2019, Switzerland has removed the Code 78(which indicated that the licence was only valid fro automatic vehicles) from driving licences. This essentially means that anyone who takes (or has taken) a driving test with an automatic transmission is now allowed to drive a manual transmission vehicle as long as they don't have any health issues which prevent them from doing so.

More info here. https://stva.zh.ch/internet/sicherhe...ttVZV2019.html
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Just to update, as of February 2019, Switzerland has removed the Code 78(which indicated that the licence was only valid fro automatic vehicles) from driving licences. This essentially means that anyone who takes (or has taken) a driving test with an automatic transmission is now allowed to drive a manual transmission vehicle as long as they don't have any health issues which prevent them from doing so.

More info here. https://stva.zh.ch/internet/sicherhe...ttVZV2019.html
But before doing so they have to request to have the code 78 removed from their license. (yes, such is in the article, but not all here do read German)
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