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Rust removal from rear wheel arches?

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Does someone has experience with this? And how much could it cost to remove the rust on the rear wheel arches?

... And probably give the car a good overall protection under as well





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Old 14.02.2018, 11:35
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Re: Rust removal from rear wheel arches?

This might help : https://www.carthrottle.com/post/the...epairing-rust/

Personally I have never had a rust problem since leaving the States. Back then once a car started rusting there was not much that one could do about it. It can be fixed cosmetically but deep down the rust is still there and will come back again and again. So basically it is eventually doomed.
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Old 14.02.2018, 11:39
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Re: Rust removal from rear wheel arches?

Depends how bad the rust is. Iirc you lived near to the sea, which is conducive to rust.

Doing it properly isn't cheap.

How long do you plan to keep the car, what is the current value of the car?

(Not much point in spending 2K to repair a car which isn't worth much more than 3K.)
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Old 14.02.2018, 11:49
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Depends how bad the rust is. Iirc you lived near to the sea, which is conducive to rust.

Doing it properly isn't cheap.

How long do you plan to keep the car, what is the current value of the car?

(Not much point in spending 2K to repair a car which isn't worth much more than 3K.)
Yeah, its from a car that im planning to buy, but the owner told me it has a little bit of rust at the rear arches... The car is not that cheap either, almost 9.000 chf... Thats why I was asking, still 2k if at the end looks perfect the car seems worth it I guess

Have you personally did it in the past? Maybe doing it in Germany could be also an option?
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Old 14.02.2018, 11:56
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Yeah, its from a car that im planning to buy, but the owner told me it has a little bit of rust at the rear arches... The car is not that cheap either, almost 9.000 chf... Thats why I was asking, still 2k if at the end looks perfect the car seems worth it I guess

Have you personally did it in the past? Maybe doing it in Germany could be also an option?
Walk away! Don't look back! Do it NOW!

PS: Could of been in a flood!
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Old 14.02.2018, 12:04
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PS: Could of been in a flood!
Hahahah hope not... I love that car...
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Re: Rust removal from rear wheel arches?

If anyone knows a garage that does this, in Germany or Switzerland let me know
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Re: Rust removal from rear wheel arches?

Well, pretty much any garage that has body repair facilities should be able to fix a rust problem. But how much work it is it's a how long is a piece of string question... It usually involves some griding down the rust to the bare metal, some rebuilding of the shape using resin filler, some repainting afterwards.... depending on size, number of panels affected, amount of work, etc could be a while... depending on how good you want it to look at the end...

Google "rust wheel arch repair" for some examples, no point in repeating it all. Add 50% markup for swiss prices.

If you're looking at buying a car with rust on it already, as the others have said, run away! Unless you do a thorough inspection for other rust spots (underside, etc) or unless it's a Ferrari and you want to do a restoration project... and even then...
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Old 14.02.2018, 12:25
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Yeah, its from a car that im planning to buy, but the owner told me it has a little bit of rust at the rear arches... The car is not that cheap either, almost 9.000 chf... Thats why I was asking, still 2k if at the end looks perfect the car seems worth it I guess

Have you personally did it in the past? Maybe doing it in Germany could be also an option?
Pictures? Is it a paint bubble, or is it rusted through?

Naja... 25K for body work, 15K for paint. (with those numbers it doesn't really matter if they're USD, GBP, CHF, or EUR - they're all out of range of your budget.

And you can forget a bodyman giving you a fixed estimate: he can't tell how bad the rust is until he's started cutting into the car.

I can sell you a MIG welder, if you're interested. It even has a scratch start TIG function.
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Re: Rust removal from rear wheel arches?

P.S.

Best quote from here

It's always worse than it looks
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Hahahah hope not... I love that car...
Then if you're still serious take it to TCS to be inspected: https://www.tcs.ch/de/kurse-fahrzeug...schen-zentren/

They will also advise you on the rust.
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Walk away! Don't look back! Do it NOW!

PS: Could of been in a flood!
I second this. Unless it's a vintage car that you're planning to spend the next year restoring, walk away now. I did the work many moons ago on a Morris Minor Traveller, but that was under the guidance of a retired Rolls Royce engineer, and with full access to his Aladdin's cave of a garage.

If it's a Mazda, they're cursed with rusting wheel arches, and I've had to take one off the road in the UK because it was an uneconomical repair (kept it for spares for it's replacement). For the record, it was affected by floods in December 2013, and once the rust had set in, it spread like wildfire, and the car was taken off the road 8mths later.
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Old 14.02.2018, 12:46
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Re: Rust removal from rear wheel arches?

I had an E30 Alpina I loved, looked perfect. MFK started poking around the chassis with a screw driver, deep rust all over in the important structural points, nothing really visible.

*sniff, sob, sniff-sniff* bye-bye...

Some shady character took it off me for CHF 500, put it on some shady ship to some shady place where it is probably running around making somebody happy to this day.
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I second this. Unless it's a vintage car that you're planning to spend the next year restoring, walk away now. I did the work many moons ago on a Morris Minor Traveller, but that was under the guidance of a retired Rolls Royce engineer, and with full access to his Aladdin's cave of a garage.

If it's a Mazda, they're cursed with rusting wheel arches, and I've had to take one off the road in the UK because it was an uneconomical repair (kept it for spares for it's replacement). For the record, it was affected by floods in December 2013, and once the rust had set in, it spread like wildfire, and the car was taken off the road 8mths later.
In this case is a beautiful 2002 STI Prodrive edition... cant let these cars die...
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In this case is a beautiful 2002 STI Prodrive edition... cant let these cars die...
Sounds like you need to do a bit of research. Not my taste in car, but one of my mates had a few of them. Always one in his garage being refurbed, and one or two on the road, but he's given them up since he moved to Cornwall, in favour of something more practical.

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Not sure if this is true or not, but I was told that ANY, even slight, rear collision moves the bumper and it's that top fixing at the front edge that gets shifted, breaking the rust-proof seal around it, with the result that it starts to rust from the INSIDE?
https://www.scoobynet.com/styling-36...ty-arches.html
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Sounds like you need to do a bit of research.
Here is the basics:
- boy racer car that had a target audience that made sure that not too many survived till now.
- limited production
- stable price, will increase

Bottom line: As far as spending money on cars go is this a pretty solid investment. Definitely worth spending 2-3k CHF on to get into top shape and keep for a few years.

P.S: Not my sort of car either... but definitely not the sort of car that gets totalled because of a bit of rust.
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Re: Rust removal from rear wheel arches?

Why not a new WRX for under 45K?

In five years it will still be worth 25K, which would be about 20k out of your pocket.

In comparison, with the rust bucket aproaching 20 you are probably going to spend at least that amount buying it and keeping it on the road for the next five years.

One has to consider MFK every 2 years, rust removal, probably needs a new timing belt (replace every 80K), shocks may be worn. head gasket may be ready to blow, muffler?, Exhaust check ever 2 years, etc. etc..

Also, if it has rust I assume it hasn't been MFKed recently?
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In this case is a beautiful 2002 STI Prodrive edition... cant let these cars die...
Martin I have also a 2002 Impreza. The rear wheel arches are a problem with this model. I had the rust repaired 2 years ago, it turned out that the arches were not damaged, only the body work around the arches were damaged. I had it repaired and sprayed for a lot less than Fr.2000.
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Martin I have also a 2002 Impreza. The rear wheel arches are a problem with this model. I had the rust repaired 2 years ago, it turned out that the arches were not damaged, only the body work around the arches were damaged. I had it repaired and sprayed for a lot less than Fr.2000.
Hey Mara! Yup, I got a quote from a Subaru Dealership to remove the rust for 2000 Chf in Muttenz

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Hey Mara! Yup, I got a quote from a Subaru Dealership to remove the rust for 2000 Chf in Muttenz

We cant let the legends die...
Hi Martin, I had it done in a small village garage, who had experience of the Subaru problem. Its a great car for Switzerland. I find price tag for the car a little high. I would ask the seller if he would take on a 50% of the repair costs.
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