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Old 08.03.2018, 11:14
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I wonder if it would work out cheaper than my monthly point to point pass..

Me for example, I only travel to/from work, I don't use it at the weekends and I sometimes work from home..
So I lose at least 10 days travel depending on weekends / work from home days. Obviously no such flexibility in a monthly travel card.

Edit - and this month, had to renew yesterday and I'm going away for easter.. So I'll lose another week this time.
Wouldn't that be easy to find out? Calculate 20 single-trips (or day cards), compare with your monthly ticket-price.
Or am I missing something here?
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Old 08.03.2018, 11:28
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Re: Fairtiq - phone app for public transport tickets

Dragoon, since you seem to be involved with the company, some questions:

Does it work for pre-checking in at a specified time or something like that?

The amount of times I'm running for the train for the last minute, and if "anything" goes wrong with the phone or network or app, then I can't board the train. The SBB app is extremely comfortable for this because I just swipe my connection time for the next day, or for the after work commute, and I know my ticket is valid even if I am sprinting full tilt to get on the train/tram/bus.

Also, I have many times where the signal is poor / non-existent on my phone when taking the train to longer distances. This doesn't cache the "all day ticket" after you've checked in right? Until data coverage is ubiquitous everywhere without fail, it still feels waaay safer to just use the SBB app. (For those of you complaining how complicated it is... just try the touch timetable. That's all I use, exclusively. I have my home stations set, and just swipe around).

In theory it sounds like a great idea, but the cost of a fine will quickly outweigh any savings (and I don't think there are many opportunities to save much if you're commuting a longer route in 24hrs say in the ZVV zones, since you get a 2hr or 24hr ticket) if anything technical goes wrong. Would be nice to use something like this especially for travellers who are not familiar with the area.
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Old 08.03.2018, 11:39
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Wouldn't that be easy to find out? Calculate 20 single-trips (or day cards), compare with your monthly ticket-price.
Or am I missing something here?
Yeah I guess you're right enough.. Just buying the individual trips costs waaaay more than my monthly ticket, even discounting the days I don't travel, it's double.

I guess I was just wondering if I was missing something.
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Dragoon, since you seem to be involved with the company, some questions:

Does it work for pre-checking in at a specified time or something like that?

The amount of times I'm running for the train for the last minute, and if "anything" goes wrong with the phone or network or app, then I can't board the train. The SBB app is extremely comfortable for this because I just swipe my connection time for the next day, or for the after work commute, and I know my ticket is valid even if I am sprinting full tilt to get on the train/tram/bus.

Also, I have many times where the signal is poor / non-existent on my phone when taking the train to longer distances. This doesn't cache the "all day ticket" after you've checked in right? Until data coverage is ubiquitous everywhere without fail, it still feels waaay safer to just use the SBB app. (For those of you complaining how complicated it is... just try the touch timetable. That's all I use, exclusively. I have my home stations set, and just swipe around).

In theory it sounds like a great idea, but the cost of a fine will quickly outweigh any savings (and I don't think there are many opportunities to save much if you're commuting a longer route in 24hrs say in the ZVV zones, since you get a 2hr or 24hr ticket) if anything technical goes wrong. Would be nice to use something like this especially for travellers who are not familiar with the area.
Apparently, if you use a few small journey's, say within the ZVV zone, it will charge you for a 24 hour ticket if that is cheaper. I'll try tonight as I'll be using a short ticket tonight, another in the morning then a ticket to the airport in the afternoon. It should in theory charge me for a 24 hour 2 zone ticket from tonight until tomorrow night.

I used it last night for a short ticket and it worked very easily.
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Re: Fairtiq - phone app for public transport tickets

Well I used it last night and again this morning, and this morning I got controlled. The inspector said it was the first time he had to check one so he took 10 seconds longer to make sure all was ok. And it was, so far I'm very impressed with it.
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Re: Fairtiq - phone app for public transport tickets

I'm not sure I'm following how this app will help me.

I have a 1/2 price card - does it take that into account?
I take the tram to work, then home (both are in Zurich) -- The system will determine if my 2 one way's is cheaper then a 24hr ticket
Does this work for trips between cities?
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I saw this earlier on FB and downloaded the app. It works all over Switzerland and covers most ticket types (night tickets and ferries aren't covered yet). The idea is you "check in" when you board a train, bus or tram and "check out" when you get off. It knows where you have been and charges you accordingly. What I like is if you use multiple trams or buses in one day, once it becomes cheaper to do so, you will be charged for a 24 hour pass.

The FAQ page says it doesn't cover monthly tickets yet, which leads me to believe they are working on it.

It took me just 3 minutes to set up including linking to my Postfinance account and to let it know I have a half tax card, I'll use it tonight for the first time and report back.

Let me know if you've used it and if there are any pitfalls I haven't thought of.

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I'm not sure I'm following how this app will help me.

I have a 1/2 price card - does it take that into account?
I take the tram to work, then home (both are in Zurich) -- The system will determine if my 2 one way's is cheaper then a 24hr ticket
Does this work for trips between cities?
Yes it does. Regarding how it will help you.... well, it helps me in that I don't have to worry about getting a ticket every time I need a tram or bus in ZH - sods law, if I'm in a hurry my tram will be pulling in just as I get to the stop, or I don't have coins, there's a queue for tickets etc. If you travel a lot in the city on public transport and have a monthly ticket, then this won't be for you (unless you use it for the odd times you go out of your zone - you can tell it if you have a zone pass and it'll charge you for any extras).

Re trips between cities. If you travelled from Bern to Zurich say, then used the trams around the city and got the train back to Bern in the evening, it should theoretically charge you for a 24 hour city ticket at the end of the day. I've seen there is an option to report any journeys that haven't been billed correctly so you should be safe.
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Re: Fairtiq - phone app for public transport tickets

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Dragoon, since you seem to be involved with the company, some questions:

Does it work for pre-checking in at a specified time or something like that?

The amount of times I'm running for the train for the last minute, and if "anything" goes wrong with the phone or network or app, then I can't board the train. The SBB app is extremely comfortable for this because I just swipe my connection time for the next day, or for the after work commute, and I know my ticket is valid even if I am sprinting full tilt to get on the train/tram/bus.

Also, I have many times where the signal is poor / non-existent on my phone when taking the train to longer distances. This doesn't cache the "all day ticket" after you've checked in right? Until data coverage is ubiquitous everywhere without fail, it still feels waaay safer to just use the SBB app. (For those of you complaining how complicated it is... just try the touch timetable. That's all I use, exclusively. I have my home stations set, and just swipe around).

In theory it sounds like a great idea, but the cost of a fine will quickly outweigh any savings (and I don't think there are many opportunities to save much if you're commuting a longer route in 24hrs say in the ZVV zones, since you get a 2hr or 24hr ticket) if anything technical goes wrong. Would be nice to use something like this especially for travellers who are not familiar with the area.
Thanks for the questions, I'll try to answer them as best as I know:
1) You can pre-checkin in, that's perfectly fine, as long as you got the start station correctly (in many cases it will also fix the start station, if you walked
for example). But there are no automatic check-ins at the moment, you need to check-in manually.
2) We understand that there can be areas with poor signal, but the ticket remains valid for some time even without a signal, the app will show a notification if it is not able to reach the internet for longer periods of time. Obviously you need to get signal later at some point to continue travelling.
We have tested many routes with different network operators and we never were without a signal for more than couple minutes.
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Old 11.03.2018, 14:13
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Re: Fairtiq - phone app for public transport tickets

Used in last night for a short bus journey in Baselland and it worked without a hitch, charging me the correct CHF 3.80 for the trip. I swiped to start as soon as I got to the bus stop, even though the bus didn't arrive for another 5 minutes and that didn't seem to be a problem.
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Re: Fairtiq - phone app for public transport tickets

I've used it a couple of times in Geneva this week. The first time for two trips in Geneva and it correctly charged me 4 CHF (I have a 1/2 abo and a single ticket in zone 10 costs 2 CHFs.
Later in the week I made a second two way trip in zone 10, the total trip taking just under 2 hours. Fairtiq initially loaded 2 times a 2 CHF ticket, but then corrected it to 2.40 CHF. I've occasionally bought a 3-zone ticket in the past, they're valid for 2 hours, but you have to know in advance exactly how long the trip will be. However a 3 zone ticket costs 2.90 CHF, not 2.40 CHF. I can't find any Unireso ticket valid for 2 hours that costs 2.40 CHF!
I wonder whether Fairtiq have an incorrect fare table for Unireso loaded?
However I love the idea of the app recalculating your itinerary based on what you actually travelled and purchasing the optimum ticket.
I reckon this is the future of travel tickets. All we need to do still is automate the check-in/check-ou!
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Re: Fairtiq - phone app for public transport tickets

Is there any official statement from ZVV or BLS or SBB etc about Fairtiq?

I found some press about Lezzgo, and some forum posts about Fairtiq, but nothing official
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Is there any official statement from ZVV or BLS or SBB etc about Fairtiq?

I found some press about Lezzgo, and some forum posts about Fairtiq, but nothing official
Well, ZVV were quicker than you lot

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Yes, just show you're logged in, and you get a QR code for the ticket monkey
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Re: Fairtiq - phone app for public transport tickets

Tried it last night on an indirect run from the airport to Thalwil. Got inspected and the mobile ticket passed with no issue. Works very well overall.
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Re: Fairtiq - phone app for public transport tickets

if anyone is willing to share a promocode please feel free to PM me one, should be mutually beneficial.
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I've been using it a week now, the only issue I had was at the HB. I got a tram there, checked out but kept the app open and went downstairs to platform 33 to get the airport train. Once down the app must have refreshed and it lost its position so I had to go back upstairs to almost street level again so it knew where I was. I guess I could have looked for wifi, but but running upstairs was just as quick. After I arrived at the airport though, it only charged me 0.80 - which was the extra to my tram ticket to make the 2 up to a one hour ticket from Dammweg to the airport.

Last night after my tram home my phone made a crazy alarm noise, turns out I forgot to check out of the tram , so that warning works well!
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Re: Fairtiq - phone app for public transport tickets

Hmm the app seems like a good concept but also a bit of a faff around if you have to check in and out and it loses signal requiring you to go back up to street level.
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Re: Fairtiq - phone app for public transport tickets

Glad you are so happy with this app. But if one looks at the website it honestly looks very fishy and like a scam. No imprint, no address. The about us is as generic as it can get.

The links to the partners are not to a page which endossers FAIRTIQ but to the main sites. If one searches at ZVV for FAIRTIQ https://www.zvv.ch/zvv/de/suche.html...charset_=utf-8 nothing shows up.

Much room for improvement.
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Glad you are so happy with this app. But if one looks at the website it honestly looks very fishy and like a scam. No imprint, no address. The about us is as generic as it can get.

The links to the partners are not to a page which endossers FAIRTIQ but to the main sites. If one searches at ZVV for FAIRTIQ https://www.zvv.ch/zvv/de/suche.html...charset_=utf-8 nothing shows up.

Much room for improvement.
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Tried it last night on an indirect run from the airport to Thalwil. Got inspected and the mobile ticket passed with no issue. Works very well overall.
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Glad you are so happy with this app. But if one looks at the website it honestly looks very fishy and like a scam. No imprint, no address. The about us is as generic as it can get.

The links to the partners are not to a page which endossers FAIRTIQ but to the main sites. If one searches at ZVV for FAIRTIQ https://www.zvv.ch/zvv/de/suche.html...charset_=utf-8 nothing shows up.

Much room for improvement.
I have an email from ZVV stating they support it. Shit website nothwithstanding...
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Does anyone else see the name of this app and read it as something rather smelly?
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