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(HELP!) CO2 Vehicle Emissions Import Charges

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I have been looking through all the threads about importing a vehicle from abroad, and I have been on the official website for the formula for working out import duties, but I still don't understand. The website says this:

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For small importers, the target is calculated on the basis of the following formula for each car:


Permissible specific emission = 130* + a × (unladen weight – Mt-2) g CO2/km.

where:


a**: 0,0457 (slope of straight line formed by target levels)

Mt-2: average unladen weight of cars (massing in running order, in kilograms) registered for the first time in Switzerland in the last but one calendar year prior to the reference year.

For 2017, the average unladen weight for 2015, namely 1,532 kilograms, and for 2018 the average unladen weight for 2016, namely 1,563 kilograms, is applicable.

A penalty applies if the relevant CO2 emissions of a vehicle exceed the specified target.

* As of 2020 the target is 95 grams

** As of 2020 the slope of the straight line formed by target levels is 0.0333
So, if my car has 153kg emissions and weighs 980 kg, I think the formula to use is this:

130 + 0.0457 x (930 - 1563)

BUT I have no idea if this is correct. The formula on the website reads 1,563 with a comma. Does this mean 1563 or 1.563? The 0,0457 is also confusing: does it mean 0.0457? In which case, surely this would suggest that the other number is 1.563?

Also, the formula itself is confusing because it seems to be missing brackets from around everything right of the + sign, due to the multiplication sign. What order should these calculations be done in?

Somebody please help!

http://www.bfe.admin.ch/themen/00507...x.html?lang=en
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Hi Everyone,

I have been looking through all the threads about importing a vehicle from abroad, and I have been on the official website for the formula for working out import duties, but I still don't understand. The website says this:



So, if my car has 153kg emissions and weighs 980 kg, I think the formula to use is this:

130 + 0.0457 x (930 - 1563)
Yes, that's correct
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Re: (HELP!) CO2 Vehicle Emissions Import Charges

Thank you so much for your reply, but what order do I do the calculations in?

Should it be this:

130 + (0.0457 x (930 - 1563))

In other words:
930 - 1563 = -633
Then multiply -633 by 0.0457, which = -28.93
Then add -28.93 to 130

So the tax is 101 CHF?
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Re: (HELP!) CO2 Vehicle Emissions Import Charges

And keep in mind that all cars imported into CH since 1.01.2014 need the automatic tire pressure control system.

In FR: "Depuis le 1er novembre 2014, il est obligatoire d’équiper d’un système de contrôle de la pression des pneus (TPMS) tous les camping-cars et véhicules de tourisme neufs immatriculés en Europe ou importés en Suisse."

Link: http://www.agvs-upsa.ch/fr/news/news...de-la-pression
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Isn't this just for new cars? I will be buying mine second hand.
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Any car registered since that date afaik.

Not that I can really see the use when the garage can´t be bothered to set that after they changed the tires........
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Isn't this just for new cars? I will be buying mine second hand.
You have not given any details on your car. If the car is newer than 2014 then yes.
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and headlight washers also required
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Really? Haven´t any on my car and that is not too old. Since when?
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And keep in mind that all cars imported into CH since 1.01.2014 need the automatic tire pressure control system.

In FR: "Depuis le 1er novembre 2014, il est obligatoire d’équiper d’un système de contrôle de la pression des pneus (TPMS) tous les camping-cars et véhicules de tourisme neufs immatriculés en Europe ou importés en Suisse."

Link: http://www.agvs-upsa.ch/fr/news/news...de-la-pression
Key-word is 'NEW'.

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Really? Haven´t any on my car and that is not too old. Since when?
Only for HID headlights.

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Re: (HELP!) CO2 Vehicle Emissions Import Charges

Thanks for all your replies (and excuse my ignorance - I'm new to all of this), but I am still not sure what you mean by registered. Do you mean registered in Switzerland, or when the car is first registered? I want to buy a 2007 Suzuki Swift. Does it need the automatic tyre pressure thing in order for me to import it, and the headlight washers?

Also, as above, can anybody confirm whether they think my calculations regarding weight and CO2 emissions are correct (i.e. that it would be 101CHF)? It seems too cheap.

I know there are other costs, such as the cost of the documentation, and the Swiss MOT equivalent. Is there anything else that I am missing here for importing a second hand 2007 Suzuki?

Basically, I want to buy a car off a member of my family because I know the car runs well and my French isn't great. I am also not too sure how long I will be in Switzerland, so a RHD is better for me (I know it is a risk in case the steering/lights etc. go, but it's a risk I want to take).
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My French isn't great YET
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My French isn't great YET
There are buttons on top of that page to change the language
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Re: (HELP!) CO2 Vehicle Emissions Import Charges

I wasn't talking about the page, but thanks. I read the page in English (as per my post, it isn't the language that is confusing me). I meant my French is only B1 level and I don't feel confident buying a car here from a dealer, or a private sale, when I won't understand everything that is being said. I am always wary about buying cars second hand, and I think I can be sure of getting the best deal when I can speak to the person selling it in English rather than in French. In this case, anyway, I am lucky enough to potentially have a sibling selling it to me. But, if I didn't, I'd rather not have to negotiate in French until my French is a bit better!
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The website says this:

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So, if my car has 153kg emissions and weighs 980 kg, I think the formula to use is this:

130 + 0.0457 x (930 - 1563)

BUT I have no idea if this is correct. The formula on the website reads 1,563 with a comma. Does this mean 1563 or 1.563? The 0,0457 is also confusing: does it mean 0.0457? In which case, surely this would suggest that the other number is 1.563?

Also, the formula itself is confusing because it seems to be missing brackets from around everything right of the + sign, due to the multiplication sign. What order should these calculations be done in?

Somebody please help!

http://www.bfe.admin.ch/themen/00507...x.html?lang=en
1) The official languages on Admin.ch are German, French and Italian. Rumantch and specially English are for information only. In case something is not clear or confussing check one of the official languages.

2) In Switzerland the point as well as the coma have the same function, it is a decimal point/coma. For thousand separators the ' is used.

3) The above formula is completely lost in translation and thus confusing. On the page some of the ' were converted to , as well some of the . to , . The rsult is mathematical gibberish.

4) The order of operations for calculation is the standard usual one: "Points before stroke" , which means multiplication · and division : before addition + and subtraction - .

5) I hope your car does not have an emission of 153kg CO2/km, but more to the like of 153 g CO2/km, or do you intend to import a big f/king engine on wheels?

6) This only applies to new cars. The definition of new is a car which has either never been put on the road or its date of first registration is less than 6 months before the date of import. (Art. 17 CO2-Ordinance https://www.admin.ch/opc/de/classifi...index.html#a17)


The correct way to calculate the penalty for an private import of car which's first registration is not more than 6 month ago in 2018 is:

Step 1, calculate target g CO2/km:
130 + 0.0457 × (unladdenweight in kg – 1563)

Step 2, calculate difference from target:
Cars g C02/km - target from step 1 (round down result to next 1/10)

Step 3, calculate penalty
1st gramm over target CHF 5.50
2nd gramm CHF 16.50
3rd gramm CHF 27.50
4th, 5th,.. gramm CHF 103.50
See Annex 5 of the CO2-Ordinance https://www.admin.ch/opc/de/classifi...tml#app6ahref0
(Linked to German version as English version is not up to date!)

So, for a car with 980 kg unladen weight and 153 g CO2/km:
Step 1: 130 + 0.0457 × (980 – 1563) = 130 + 0.0457 × (-583) = 103.3569
Step 2: 153 - 103.3569 = 46.6431 => 49.6
Step 3: 5.50 + 16.50 + 27.50 + 103.50 × 46.6 = CHF 4872.60

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Thanks for all your replies (and excuse my ignorance - I'm new to all of this), but I am still not sure what you mean by registered. Do you mean registered in Switzerland, or when the car is first registered? I want to buy a 2007 Suzuki Swift. Does it need the automatic tyre pressure thing in order for me to import it, and the headlight washers?
Does your car have HID/Xenon lights? No? Than no washer needed.

Is the first registration of the car (the very first one, even if aboard) before November 1st 2014 (could also be April 1st 2015 according Art. 103 VTS https://www.admin.ch/opc/de/classifi...ndex.html#a103 , but lets stick with the earlier date to be safe)? No? Then the grandfathering rule Art. 4 VTS https://www.admin.ch/opc/de/classifi.../index.html#a4 applies and no TPS is needed.
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Re: (HELP!) CO2 Vehicle Emissions Import Charges

Based on the last post, am I to understand that if I already own a 2011 Hyundai i30 car since 2015, and I import it when I change my residence into Switzerland, I won't have to worry about the emmissions?
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Based on the last post, am I to understand that if I already own a 2011 Hyundai i30 car since 2015, and I import it when I change my residence into Switzerland, I won't have to worry about the emmissions?
Correct.

If you import as part of your move and you owned it for at least 6 months things are any way much easier. See the official information: https://www.ezv.admin.ch/ezv/en/home...-effects-.html
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Than I just need to worry about getting insurances and passing the MFK? That would be a relief.
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