EV and PHEV corner - Page 2

JakubB · #21 15.02.2019, 20:34

	Quote:	Medea Fleecestealer
	However, when they tried to remove the sleeping baby from the back seat, they realised all the doors were now locked and the car key was still inside https://www.thelocal.ch/20180621/zur...aby-from-tesla

Hope the baby didn't get the genes responsible for intelligence from its parents...

AbFab · #22 15.02.2019, 20:36

	Quote:	JakubB
	Hope the baby didn't get the genes responsible for intelligence from its parents...

Quite so. The parents would have a problem with any modern locking system...

robBob · #23 15.02.2019, 20:37

Looks like VW is offering some decent rebates on CNG cars.

https://www.volkswagen.ch/de/angebot...2|GenericBrand

#24 15.02.2019, 20:46

	Quote:	JakubB
	Hope the baby didn't get the genes responsible for intelligence from its parents...

Well lets just hope you weren't one of the genetic contributors

flavio · #25 15.02.2019, 21:26

Still looking for a good Fiat Multipla with low kms

robBob · #26 23.02.2019, 07:58

Chevy Volt is at the end of production.

So there are some good deals to be had:

https://www.myev.com/cars-for-sale?m...amp;model=volt

JakubB · #27 23.02.2019, 19:13

	Quote:	robBob
	Chevy Volt is at the end of production. So there are some good deals to be had: https://www.myev.com/cars-for-sale?m...amp;model=volt

Why in Florida?? TIS ;]

robBob · #28 24.02.2019, 00:17

	Quote:	JakubB
	Why in Florida?? TIS ;]

Cars keep longer there. And cost less

JakubB · #29 24.02.2019, 16:53

Not after bringing them to CH ;]

Mikers · #30 28.02.2019, 12:14

I am considering the following logic. Am i right or am I bananas ?

I want a family 4-wheel drive car for my wife. she drives mostly small runs to ferry kids around. I have another car which i use on the autoroute to work. its a diesel and relatively economical.

I can get a outlander PHEV for 25k for a 2015/16 model. this has a small electric range (50-60k) on electric then the petrol kicks in. but i wont do big journey's.

I also have a 400 volt circuit in my house which could be presented out the front. I am thinking this could give me fast charging. is this a correct assumption ?

If the above is correct my insurance shouldnt be too bad (not premium car) my road tax almost nothing and my fuel consumption almost nothing so the only pay would be insurance and small electrical cost.

Joking aside, is my plan correct here, or is there something fundamental I am missing (e.g. Outlander phev's battery are known to be ruined after 3 years etc).

thanks

JakubB · #31 28.02.2019, 14:39

	Quote:	Mikers
	I am considering the following logic. Am i right or am I bananas ? 1. I want a family 4-wheel drive car for my wife. she drives mostly small runs to ferry kids around. I have another car which i use on the autoroute to work. its a diesel and relatively economical. 2. I can get a outlander PHEV for 25k for a 2015/16 model. this has a small electric range (50-60k) on electric then the petrol kicks in. but i wont do big journey's. 3. I also have a 400 volt circuit in my house which could be presented out the front. I am thinking this could give me fast charging. is this a correct assumption ? 4. If the above is correct my insurance shouldnt be too bad (not premium car) my road tax almost nothing and my fuel consumption almost nothing so the only pay would be insurance and small electrical cost. Joking aside, is my plan correct here, or is there something fundamental I am missing (e.g. Outlander phev's battery are known to be ruined after 3 years etc). thanks

1. Tesla 3 fits the need as well, but it's less utilitarian than the Outlander PHEV. Both cars you could use on the motorways, the PHEV would not give you any range anxiety though. You can still squeeze 7l/100km in Outlander (cheaper fuel too).
2. You will almost never get that range from the Outlander in Switzerland, even in the 2019 model. As for 2015, you will need to take the battery degradation/Battery MAnagemet Unit overprotection leading to lowering battery capacity over time. That being said, Mitsubishi is an excellent vehicle to drive, especially on snowy mountain roads.
3. Correct. Providing a proper charger installation, you can top the battery from flat (not really flat but that's a technicality) in about 3.5 hours. In the high amp chademo charger (50A) you can charge the car from flat to 80% in about 30 minutes. You normally cannot install chademo charger at home though.
4. I pay 1.1k for full casco with bonus protection using Baloise company, but I have 2018 S-edition model. Tax, I pay 154 chf a year. Fuel, tank holds 42l so not too much but in the city, you can drive for thousands of km without refilling.

k_and_e · #32 04.03.2019, 20:45

The Jaguar I-Pace is European Car of the Year 2019.

Surprising as it is not a really impressive car, because energy consumption is way higher than a comparable Tesla.

AbFab · #33 04.03.2019, 23:12

	Quote:	k_and_e
	The Jaguar I-Pace is European Car of the Year 2019. Surprising as it is not a really impressive car, because energy consumption is way higher than a comparable Tesla.

Tried one. Far too big. Didn't want an SUV. Quality interior, but as you say eats electricity as it's a big beast. Jaguar/Land Rover are not at the Geneva motor show this year...

Now the Model 3 is in Europe, my money is on that as car of the year 2020...

rainer_d · #34 04.03.2019, 23:13

Boss has one.
I think it looks weird and I actually prefer the look of the Model X.

It's probably still a bit nicer on the inside and it does have a few more features and available extras than the Model X, notably a head-up display, and the Matrix LED lights.

Medea Fleecestealer · #35 05.03.2019, 07:32

This looks the part

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-47418405

until it tries to go over a speed hump.

JakubB · #36 05.03.2019, 09:40

	Quote:	rainer_d
	Boss has one. I think it looks weird and I actually prefer the look of the Model X. It's probably still a bit nicer on the inside and it does have a few more features and available extras than the Model X, notably a head-up display, and the Matrix LED lights.

HUD is overrated. You cannot see it in the polarized sunglasses

erchegyia · #37 05.03.2019, 19:49

	Quote:	JakubB
	HUD is overrated. You cannot see it in the polarized sunglasses

true, if you got the cheap one

JakubB · #38 05.03.2019, 21:38

	Quote:	erchegyia
	true, if you got the cheap one

Always, if it's just a reflection. If there is actual display in the glass... That's another story

#39 05.03.2019, 22:23

	Quote:	Medea Fleecestealer
	This looks the part https://www.bbc.com/news/business-47418405 until it tries to go over a speed hump.

I'm pretty sure it's not the fastest car in the world; Rimac would beat it both on acceleration and top speed.

#40 05.03.2019, 22:28

	Quote:	Medea Fleecestealer
	Given how expensive the car is you should never be able to lock the car with the key in it. Can't do that with our Qashqai.

OK, so I'm a tad late to this thread.

Sure you can do that with your Qashqai.

Step 1: open boot (trunk).
Step 2: use key fob to lock all doors (includes boot/trunk).
Step 3: place key fob in boot/trunk.
Step 4: close boot/trunk.

Bonus step: smash window (no need to call police).