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Pure EV goodness 35 49.30%
Petrol (Diesel) sippers (PHEV) 10 14.08%
Petrol (Diesel) guzzlers 22 30.99%
Nah, I will go for hydrogen fuel cells when available 5 7.04%
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Always, if it's just a reflection. If there is actual display in the glass... That's another story
Too bad the Focus 2018 didn't know about this

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A bump to this thread and fock me sideways.......a track focused but road legal EV about 50 kg heavier than a Lotus Elise https://www.motor1.com/news/504038/b...ric-car-debut/

It lacks a roof so the road legal part is useless in CH and 230K EUR However, the list of NOs for a fun EV is getting shorter. And fun cars will be further developed. What surprises will the future bring?
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A bump to this thread and fock me sideways.......a track focused but road legal EV about 50 kg heavier than a Lotus Elise https://www.motor1.com/news/504038/b...ric-car-debut/

It lacks a roof so the road legal part is useless in CH and 230K EUR However, the list of NOs for a fun EV is getting shorter. And fun cars will be further developed. What surprises will the future bring?
Or even better—much quicker, much greater range, much easier to charge, much more powerful and with a fold-down roof—Tesla's Roadster will be here soon!
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Or even better—much quicker, much greater range, much easier to charge, much more powerful and with a fold-down roof—Tesla's Roadster will be here soon!
1500-2000 kg GTs are awesome on their own way. But, 700 kg road legal track toys are fun.
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Did you bring your Volt to Swiss? I have a Tesla M3 and a Nissan Leaf and I am contemplating bringing one of the cars after I move or during the move.
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Did you bring your Volt to Swiss? I have a Tesla M3 and a Nissan Leaf and I am contemplating bringing one of the cars after I move or during the move.
Hi, read your hello post in other thread. Welcome!

Well, before anything think about home charging. In Switzerland there are lots of apartment building and single home units are on high demand. If you move to a single home, stop worrying now. You'll just install a charger at home. Since driving distances are small in Switzerland forget about range anxiety. If you ever drive to other cantons, fast chargers for any car are being installed at 25-30 km in every Swiss highway. Worst thing can happen is that you need to remove the EV charger when you leave the rented house.

On the other hand, only a few apartment buildings are ready for EV chargers, even the modern ones. I live in an apartment building that was finished on 2018 and it has no preparation at all for EVs. I was once curious for a taycan, asked the administration/landlord and they need to install new cables in the underground parking which brings the cost to several thousand francs and of course they don't want to pay it.

Check the tesla fanboi thread, sure they know better if a US Model 3 can be registered in CH without too much trouble or not. https://www.englishforum.ch/transpor...oy-thread.html
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I need to replace my diesel estate which i use for almost driving on the highway for work related activities carrying a lot of equipment so need the extra space so the Tesla doesn't cut it for me.


The PHEV is fine if ur dropping the kids to school or doing the weekly shopping, the Diesel PHEV seem to be already being phased out in favour of petrol. With the extra weight of the battery and using petrol on the highway it makes no sense from an economical point of view so will be keeping my diesel for a while yet.
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Hi, read your hello post in other thread. Welcome!

Well, before anything think about home charging. In Switzerland there are lots of apartment building and single home units are on high demand. If you move to a single home, stop worrying now. You'll just install a charger at home. Since driving distances are small in Switzerland forget about range anxiety. If you ever drive to other cantons, fast chargers for any car are being installed at 25-30 km in every Swiss highway. Worst thing can happen is that you need to remove the EV charger when you leave the rented house.

On the other hand, only a few apartment buildings are ready for EV chargers, even the modern ones. I live in an apartment building that was finished on 2018 and it has no preparation at all for EVs. I was once curious for a taycan, asked the administration/landlord and they need to install new cables in the underground parking which brings the cost to several thousand francs and of course they don't want to pay it.

Check the tesla fanboi thread, sure they know better if a US Model 3 can be registered in CH without too much trouble or not. https://www.englishforum.ch/transpor...oy-thread.html
US Model 3s are basically what are sold in Switzerland. You'd need to run the car through an inspection at the cantonal motor registry/DMV and they may require changes to lights (I can't remember if Teslas in the US have orange or red indicator lights at the rear; and do they have a rear fog light in the US?), or something similarly minor, plus you'll need to purchase a CH country decal, first aid kit, warning triangle and reflective vest (if you want to travel outside Switzerland), but otherwise you should be good to go. Cars sold in Switzerland come with DAB+ stereos and Spotify, and a CHF 10 per month bill for internet connectivity. And extra-loud cowbell on the cowbell Easter egg.
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I need to replace my diesel estate which i use for almost driving on the highway for work related activities carrying a lot of equipment so need the extra space so the Tesla doesn't cut it for me.


The PHEV is fine if ur dropping the kids to school or doing the weekly shopping, the Diesel PHEV seem to be already being phased out in favour of petrol. With the extra weight of the battery and using petrol on the highway it makes no sense from an economical point of view so will be keeping my diesel for a while yet.
Might want to consider CNG.
https://www.cng-mobility.ch/personenwagen/

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I need to replace my diesel estate which i use for almost driving on the highway for work related activities carrying a lot of equipment so need the extra space so the Tesla doesn't cut it for me.


The PHEV is fine if ur dropping the kids to school or doing the weekly shopping, the Diesel PHEV seem to be already being phased out in favour of petrol. With the extra weight of the battery and using petrol on the highway it makes no sense from an economical point of view so will be keeping my diesel for a while yet.
I use my Model X to carry heavy and bulky stuff all the time. As mentioned in another thread, I used it last week to tow trailerloads of 1.5t of sand, and (separately) I stacked around 800kg of concrete pavers (80 30x30cm pieces) in the boot (which is huge, once the two rear rows of seats are folded). It's a very versatile car. But not cheap, I grant you.
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Might want to consider CNG.
https://www.cng-mobility.ch/personenwagen/
Very hard to find in CH and further afield.
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Perhaps in the Alps, but not so difficult. And can always drive on normal gasoline.
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I use my Model X to carry heavy and bulky stuff all the time. As mentioned in another thread, I used it last week to tow trailerloads of 1.5t of sand, and (separately) I stacked around 800kg of concrete pavers (80 30x30cm pieces) in the boot (which is huge, once the two rear rows of seats are folded). It's a very versatile car. But not cheap, I grant you.
Even though the Diesel engine is being run prematurely out of town to an early grave I will look into the X. Thanks for the info.
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US Model 3s are basically what are sold in Switzerland. You'd need to run the car through an inspection at the cantonal motor registry/DMV and they may require changes to lights (I can't remember if Teslas in the US have orange or red indicator lights at the rear; and do they have a rear fog light in the US?), or something similarly minor, plus you'll need to purchase a CH country decal, first aid kit, warning triangle and reflective vest (if you want to travel outside Switzerland), but otherwise you should be good to go. Cars sold in Switzerland come with DAB+ stereos and Spotify, and a CHF 10 per month bill for internet connectivity. And extra-loud cowbell on the cowbell Easter egg.
There could be a problem with Internet conductivity with a US Model 3 in Europe. When they first came here in early 2019 Tesla tried to lock models into each European county individually. Worth checking...
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Hi, read your hello post in other thread. Welcome!

Well, before anything think about home charging. In Switzerland there are lots of apartment building and single home units are on high demand. If you move to a single home, stop worrying now. You'll just install a charger at home. Since driving distances are small in Switzerland forget about range anxiety. If you ever drive to other cantons, fast chargers for any car are being installed at 25-30 km in every Swiss highway. Worst thing can happen is that you need to remove the EV charger when you leave the rented house.

On the other hand, only a few apartment buildings are ready for EV chargers, even the modern ones. I live in an apartment building that was finished on 2018 and it has no preparation at all for EVs. I was once curious for a taycan, asked the administration/landlord and they need to install new cables in the underground parking which brings the cost to several thousand francs and of course they don't want to pay it.

Check the tesla fanboi thread, sure they know better if a US Model 3 can be registered in CH without too much trouble or not. https://www.englishforum.ch/transpor...oy-thread.html
Thanks for the quick reply. If I could charge the car at a local charging station I would be ok if I stay in an apartment. Considering the charging + garage costs I have been hoping to find a house/home for rental. Maybe I am hoping for too much as my wife says.
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Thanks for your reply. In US we have the red indicator lights and no fog lights. I would be ok with making these changes and keep the car. This car has saved me a quiet a bit compared to the gas vehicles I had in the past.
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There could be a problem with Internet conductivity with a US Model 3 in Europe. When they first came here in early 2019 Tesla tried to lock models into each European county individually. Worth checking...
Thanks for pointing that, I read from a few redit forums about the lack of GPS, internet connectivity the US built Teslas in EU. Some purchased SIM cards to enable GPS. I can live with a seperate GPS or use the phone if required.
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Even though the Diesel engine is being run prematurely out of town to an early grave I will look into the X. Thanks for the info.
I sympathize fully with you re. the unwarranted attacks on diesel engines. In many cases, they are much cleaner than petrol alternatives.

Do look into the Model X, but for a much cheaper and not much smaller alternative, check out the Model Y (when available in CH).
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Did you bring your Volt to Swiss? I have a Tesla M3 and a Nissan Leaf and I am contemplating bringing one of the cars after I move or during the move.
US Model 3s don't have CCS!

You can't use the Superchargers here. Tesla will have to fit a CCS port.

They'll probably do that (for a price - their hourly rates are only rivaled by the local Ferrari garages, I've heard), but I'd try putting it up for sale in the US and see how much you can get. Then order a 2021 model here (after you've confirmed charging with your landlord...)
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US Model 3s don't have CCS!

You can't use the Superchargers here. Tesla will have to fit a CCS port.

They'll probably do that (for a price - their hourly rates are only rivaled by the local Ferrari garages, I've heard), but I'd try putting it up for sale in the US and see how much you can get. Then order a 2021 model here (after you've confirmed charging with your landlord...)
Good point! There is an adaptor available, but it ain‘t cheap. Also the lack CCS port would be a problem trying to sell in Europe...
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