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Undeclared private car

Hi everyone,

First of all, sorry if this is already answered. I searched and found information on this topic but nothing about my specific case and questions.

I moved to CH from Spain 11 months ago and got a B permit based on employment. My employer informed me via their internal relocation dossier that I could keep my foreign car here for one year without registering it. However, they said nothing about customs declaration so I understood I had nothing to do regarding the car until I started the registration process within the one year timeframe.

When I crossed the border from the French side there was nobody there and the rest you probably can imagine: I procrastinated the registration of the car until now and found out that I should have declared it without delay on my arrival.

So my question is...if I go to customs now and say "hey, I've had this car here for a year and just learned I had to let you know about it" do I risk a fine? (The car has always been mine and it's almost 12 years old so it's not subject to import tax). Am I better off having it scrapped and getting a used one here? I'd appreciate it very much if you could give me some orientation on this, as the official websites I've visited don't mention how long is that "without delay" period...

Thanks a lot in advance!
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Old 25.05.2018, 13:46
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So my question is...if I go to customs now and say "hey, I've had this car here for a year and just learned I had to let you know about it" do I risk a fine?
It's a long time ago, but that's exactly what I did when I moved here. (Well, technically not exactly, as I was stopped at the border and 'advised' on what I should do.) No fine, no problem.
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Re: Undeclared private car

don't mention that you had it in switzerland. you need to declare it at the border so just drive out and back in and declare it, get the 13.20 form, take that to the DMV and start your wonderful journey of figuring out what needs to be done and how much you will end up spending to register it.

consider careful selling it back home and buying a swiss car though.....

you don't need to bring it in the day you moved here.
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Re: Undeclared private car

There are several threads on this very topic. Can be found using the google search function.

Relax. Switzerland is not Italy.
Have you owned the car or were the principal user for at least 6 months before the move neither tax nor duty is due. And as the 12 months have not passed it is a mere formality issue.

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If the violation merely concerns duties and if these are paid, penalties are generally waived.
https://www.ezv.admin.ch/ezv/en/home...isclosure.html

Further information in English by Swiss Customs on reloaction, importing household goods and vehicles:
https://www.ezv.admin.ch/ezv/en/home...uals/personal-
property--students--holiday-homes--getting-married-and-/importation-into-switzerland.html

https://www.ezv.admin.ch/ezv/en/home...ts--etc--.html


Go to nearest customs office (not all of them are at the border) https://www.ezv.admin.ch/ezv/en/home...ing-hours.html , show proof that you owned it or were principal user for at least 6 months before your move to Switzerland (can be cars registration paper), get the appropriate form with the Stamm-Nr., then sort out insurance, and register car and get Swiss plate at local SAN/StVA http://www.strassenverkehrsaemter.ch/.
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If you want to get rid of it, just sell it in Spain (or have a friend do so). If you want to keep it follow "Swiss" his advice.
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you don't need to bring it in the day you move here.
But you DO need to declare it on they day you move here.

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Re: Undeclared private car

Thank you all for the information!!!

I'll go and declare it next week then. I read something about declaring at an inland customs office and it says the form they provide you is a temporary one valid only for two days (?). If I choose to follow that route to avoid having to go to the border, what are you supposed to do with that 2-day form?
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But you DO need to declare it on they day you move here.

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actually no you don't. you just need to declare all cars on the first form you submit for a car. its not necessary they appear on the household goods form despite the space being there for them.
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I read something about declaring at an inland customs office and it says the form they provide you is a temporary one valid only for two days (?). If I choose to follow that route to avoid having to go to the border, what are you supposed to do with that 2-day form?
As you do not link where you read that information I can only comment on this:
It is normally the other way round, you can get a temporary form at the border and you have a few days to formally sort it at any customs office. That is the case if the have no time at the boarder (Clearance of your household effects must occur during the opening hours of customs offices for merchandise) or documents are missing.

See: https://www.ezv.admin.ch/ezv/en/home...es--cars-.html

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actually no you don't. you just need to declare all cars on the first form you submit for a car. its not necessary they appear on the household goods form despite the space being there for them.
Actually you do have to declare the car on your initial Form 18.44
As long as Swiss Custom keeps its lenient procedure it might not make a difference. But as soon as they go into full Italian mode and go strictly by the book the above "advice" can back fire fatally.


From https://www.ezv.admin.ch/ezv/en/home...val-goods.html
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I would like to import my household effects in several stages. How do I proceed?

Subsequent consignments must already be declared to the customs office at the time of the initial consignment on a separate list. This may also concern a vehicle. The detailed formalities must be attended to directly with the customs office concerned. If the consignment was not reported at the time of the initial importation, please refer to question 11.
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How much time do I have to import the items which are still abroad?

The household effects should be imported during the period of transfer of domicile. No problem is posed if this occurs within a period of 2 years. The main prerequisite that the articles should have been used for a period of at least six (6) months before the transfer of domicile must nonetheless be respected. With regard to subsequent consignments, tax exemption will only be granted under certain conditions.

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When and how do I have to declare my car for importation?

The vehicle must be declared directly on importation into Switzerland. If the household effects and the car are imported separately, the procedure must be carried out as indicated under question 10; separate clearance at a different customs office is also possible.
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Re: Undeclared private car

Thanks again!

As I already imported several boxes of household stuff through a courier service (they did the customs clearance paperwork for me, based on a list of items) and I moved less than 2 years ago I guess I would be under what's stated in question 11 and the car will be considered a second consignment.

I guess this can be considered a stupid question but...do you have to take the car physically to the customs office?

I understood the temporary form thing by reading the post by A Swiss in the US. I read something like "if you wish to clear customs at an inland office, they will issue a temporary form". Just realized that it means that the border staff will give you such form so you can complete clearance quicker at the inland site. Alles klar!
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