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Advice for parents travelling outside Switzerland alone with kids

Mothers or fathers travelling overseas with their children but without their partners are being urged to carry a letter of consent for children travelling abroad from the other parent to avoid problems at the airport.

With holiday season approaching, police in Zurich are warning parents that failure to present such authorisation could result in not being allowed to travel.

Police say many people are unaware that mothers or fathers travelling with kids but without their partners may be asked to provide evidence that they have permission to take those children out of the country.

This is particularly true in cases where children have a different surname from the parent they are travelling with an increasingly common occurrence.

The requirement to demonstrate that permission has been granted by the non-travelling parent is set out in the Schengen free movement treaty. The measure is designed to stop children being kidnapped and taken out of the country.

https://www.thelocal.ch/20180625/swi...lone-with-kids
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Re: Advice for parents travelling outside Switzerland alone with kids

Yes. Some countries have restrictions not only about taking children out of the country, but about bringing them into the country. These regulations are designed to stop trafficking.

See, for example, South Africa's rules:
https://www.flysaa.com/manage-fly/be...-documentation
Scroll down to "Travelling Requirements for Minors".
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Mother furious with US Border Control.

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Mother furious with US Border Control.

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"I proceeded to tell them that they were perpetuating an institutionalised, misogynistic system which required that a woman take her husband's name. I am furious."



No matter what kind of angry-head you are about whatever -ism you think you are experiencing. The only way through the border in the US is just to nod meekly and say "Yes, of course".

Engaging with the knuckle draggers at the border is just going to bring you a world of pointless pain...
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Re: Advice for parents travelling outside Switzerland alone with kids

What should this letter contain and, for Switzerland, does it have to be in all national languages? How do they know if it was written by the other parent? Does it have to be notarized? What if it isn't?
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What should this letter contain and, for Switzerland, does it have to be in all national languages? How do they know if it was written by the other parent? Does it have to be notarized? What if it isn't?
"There is no formal legal requirement to carry a document noting the authorisation of the other parent for a child to travel, which means there is no corresponding form to fill out, Tages Anzeiger reported.

However, to avoid problems, police recommended that parents carry a new letter of consent for each trip outlining the travel dates, the duration of the trip and the reason for travel. Providing a phone number for the non-travelling parent is also recommended.

Police also said it is a good idea to carry a photocopy of the passport of the parent not making the trip."
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What should this letter contain and, for Switzerland, does it have to be in all national languages? How do they know if it was written by the other parent? Does it have to be notarized? What if it isn't?
South Africa may be have more stringent controls than some other countries, but in case it helps you to design your own documentation bundle for another country, here's their list:
http://www.dha.gov.za/index.php/stat...ve-1-june-2015
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Re: Advice for parents travelling outside Switzerland alone with kids

I think this is going to become more common, not less. Many women aren't getting married or taking the spouse's name when they do, so the children have a different surname. There are more blended families, where the adults are step parents.

I have a feeling the gal who complained in the U.S. was questioned separately because she became belligerent with the immigration officer.
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Re: Advice for parents travelling outside Switzerland alone with kids

This happened to me about 6 years ago, travelling from Zurich to the UK with a 2,4 and my 6YO.
When I was questioned I had never heard about this permission before, I had travelled many times along with the kids. In the end they called my husband (my surname is different) and let me through but told me to travel with a letter in future.
I was fuming but compliant - I mean there is just no point in arguing the case with immigration. Interestingly they didn't say that he had to carry a letter if he travelled without me, they put it all on the fact my surname was different.
Im pleased to hear it does go both ways.

What happens if you are a widow? should you carry a death certificate? my sil is visiting soon and she is a widow with 2 small kids....
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Probably. Wouldn't hurt to have a certified copy of it at least, just in case.
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Yes, I did.

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