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Finding someone inside a train

This is such a rudimentary problem that I can't believe to have no solution:

Suppose a friend is in the train, and you are joining them in the next station. How should they tell you exactly where they are inside? Srctors are too big and encompasses multiple cars, seats are usually not numbered, and I couldn't find any distinctive code on the body of the cars.

Does this really have no solution? Or I'm just embarrassingly naive?
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Re: Finding someone inside a train

1st carriage
2nd carriage
3rd carriage
4th carriage

etc.. etc...

top floor
down floor

front
back
middle

left
right

Or whatever you feel comfortable with.

Besides that every carriage has it's unique code visible inside and outside, but that does not tell you where the carriage is located.
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Re: Finding someone inside a train

And waiting for the train, under the sign for section A, B, C, D ....
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Re: Finding someone inside a train

Depends on the train, but I find it helpful to sit in a very specific carriage, such as the wheelchair/buggy accessible one, whenever I'm meeting someone.

At big stations, they usually have a diagram of the train layout somewhere on the platform, which can be useful.
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Re: Finding someone inside a train

Well, I found my OH on the train- Clapham Jct- can't remember the carriage - but it was the wrong one ahaha which turned out to be the right one.
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Re: Finding someone inside a train

Friend goes to carriage door when pulling into the station, waits until train stops, then waves their arm out of the window indicating which carriage they're in.
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Re: Finding someone inside a train

They just invented this device called a cell phone. it is really neat and allows one to communicate real time information without need of a land line. I think you can get one on the World Wide Web, but I don't know where that is located in Zurich.
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Besides that every carriage has it's unique code visible inside and outside, but that does not tell you where the carriage is located.
Can you tell me more about that code? What is the format?
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And waiting for the train, under the sign for section A, B, C, D ....
Each section encompasses multiple cars.
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1st carriage
2nd carriage
3rd carriage
4th carriage

etc.. etc...

top floor
down floor

front
back
middle

left
right

Or whatever you feel comfortable with.

Besides that every carriage has it's unique code visible inside and outside, but that does not tell you where the carriage is located.
Simply don't walk through first class without a first class ticket! Its forbidden
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Depends on the train, but I find it helpful to sit in a very specific carriage, such as the wheelchair/buggy accessible one, whenever I'm meeting someone.

At big stations, they usually have a diagram of the train layout somewhere on the platform, which can be useful.
That's what we currently do, but doesn't always work comfortably.

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Friend goes to carriage door when pulling into the station, waits until train stops, then waves their arm out of the window indicating which carriage they're in.
That doesn't work if the station is crowded, it is curved, or the train is long.

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They just invented this device called a cell phone. it is really neat and allows one to communicate real time information without need of a land line. I think you can get one on the World Wide Web, but I don't know where that is located in Zurich.
Ah cool. And how exactly do you use that new thingie for this problem? Does this device magically know where your friend is and points toward them? Or you should have some pointer to communicate over the phone, which is exactly what I asked?

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Re: Finding someone inside a train

What a stupid question.
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Re: Finding someone inside a train

I just send my location on WhatsApp and if 4G has a good reception we know that we are riding on the same train
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I just send my location on WhatsApp and if 4G has a good reception we know that we are riding on the same train
Indoor positioning is useless for the precision required to find someone in a train.
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Re: Finding someone inside a train

Friend sits in front-most (class appropriate) carriage.
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This is such a rudimentary problem that I can't believe to have no solution:

Suppose a friend is in the train, and you are joining them in the next station. How should they tell you exactly where they are inside? Srctors are too big and encompasses multiple cars, seats are usually not numbered, and I couldn't find any distinctive code on the body of the cars.

Does this really have no solution? Or I'm just embarrassingly naive?
Look on the online plan for the train. It shows info for the train. Under " zugformation einblenden "
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They just invented this device called a cell phone. it is really neat and allows one to communicate real time information without need of a land line. I think you can get one on the World Wide Web, but I don't know where that is located in Zurich.
Hey I had just that this great idea: Instead of one single locomotive per train pulling lot of carriages, how about you assemble sub-composition consisting of a locomotive, carriages and a control car. During rush hour you simply couple as many of those sub-composition as needed, or remove them when no longer needed. As each of the sub-composition is independent and can be operated as a train itself you have the highest flexibility, also for service. In addition, the locomotion power of the train no longer depend on the max power of a single locomotive. Really clever, right?

Just one draw back. If two passengers want to meet and they are each in separate sub-composition they have to wait until the train stops in a train station. But who cares when Zurich-Bern takes less than an hour.
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Indoor positioning is useless for the precision required to find someone in a train.
That’s a novelty. I didn’t know that .... did, I? ....

Have you tried the latest buddy guidance technology though i.e. indoor wirless-propelled-small-sized drone that can penetrate thru the doors of compartments?
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Friend sits in front-most (class appropriate) carriage.
Yes we do that. But that specific carriage is sometimes too sub-optimal. Moreover, the friend may not have the time to choose a specific car, but has to just jump into the first one they can.
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What a stupid question.
I know, and I'm looking for someone to embarrass me with a trivial answer.
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