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Car towed in Zurich

Hello,

By mistake I parked my car in a private parking place when visiting a friend in Zurich and I had my car towed. I've call the police and they gave me a phone number of a garage. And I could manage to pick my car up one hour later, since it was not so far from the place.
My question is should I get a fine from Police? Or just the costs from the garage?

Thank you.

Marcos
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Police can fine you and/or have you pay for their costs for their involvement in the towing. And you get the bill for the towing company.
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Re: Car towed in Zurich

This is a nightmare that happened to me a few months ago. I was given a fine of 700CHF to pay from an independent towing company, after my family rented an apartment from airbnb which mentioned 'free parking' but no indication of where not to park. I managed to get away with it in the end and the guy who reported me got in touch with the towing firm who then passed the bill onto the apartment landlord.

Not a fun battle, that's for sure. I wish you the best of luck!
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By mistake I parked my car in a private parking place when visiting a friend in Zurich and I had my car towed.
Sounds like a bullshit story to me...

Get ready to pay a hefty towing bill.
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Hello,

By mistake I parked my car in a private parking place when visiting a friend in Zurich and I had my car towed. I've call the police and they gave me a phone number of a garage. And I could manage to pick my car up one hour later, since it was not so far from the place.
My question is should I get a fine from Police? Or just the costs from the garage?

Thank you.

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Certainly was a mistake !!


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It is a private parking space. The police has no say on that and cannot fine you. But the owner of the space can, if published by a sign, press charges and request a fine issued by a judge. The fine will go into public coffers. The fine including court fee is in the range of CHF 100 to 200. This will be on top of any towing fees! In some cases the owner may, instead of pressing formal charges, only request an administration fee, which can be in the range of CHF 30 to 60. But even both is possible, administration fee AND a fine from the judge. The towing fee only has to be paid or reimbursed if the towing was actually needed because the car blocked an entryway or the only available parking spot. In addition, the towing company can not force you to pay the fee before they release the car. That is illegal and would be coercion.

Here the Canton Zurich Police on the topic:
https://www.kapo.zh.ch/dam/sicherhei...rivatgrund.pdf
and NZZ.
https://www.nzz.ch/articleA0Z1Q-1.341483
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Re: Car towed in Zurich

I received today the bill from the "Abschleppservice Zürich GmbH" in a total of CHF 580,-
Is this valuer correct? I feel it is a little bit abusive.
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I received today the bill from the "Abschleppservice Zürich GmbH" in a total of CHF 580,-
Is this valuer correct? I feel it is a little bit abusive.
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Yep, sounds about right.

Re. abusive - the owner of the private parking space most likely felt similar.
And s/he's not getting the money, s/he only had the anger.
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Is this valuer correct? I feel it is a little bit abusive.
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I received today the bill from the "Abschleppservice Zürich GmbH" in a total of CHF 580,-
Is this valuer correct? I feel it is a little bit abusive.
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The Zurich Cantonal Court found that the amount of CHF 675 for the towing of a motorcycle was more than twice as high as the tariff of the Zurich City Police and thus clearly outside the scope of any claim for damages by the parkingspot owner.
Here the court ruling:
http://www.gerichte-zh.ch/fileadmin/...H160307-O2.pdf

Here the Zurich City Police tariff:
https://www.stadt-zuerich.ch/content...bschleppen.pdf

Ergo, it would cost CHF 290 if towed by the Police. Non surprisingly the claimed costs are exactly twice as high as the court case only said more than twice is too high (it also says they could not list and justify all cost incured).

Your choices:
- Do not pay and claim the towing was actually not needed. If the other party does not budge it will lead into a Betreibung, which you have to object, and finally in a court case. Better get a lawyer once the other party contests your objection.
- Pay half or 75% and say anything more is unjust and profiteering. If the other party does not accept your partial payment it will lead into a Betreibung, which you have to object, and finally in a court case. Better get a lawyer once the other party contests your objection.
-Pay the full amount.
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Is this valuer correct? I feel it is a little bit abusive.
Lesson learned, hopefully.
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Re: Car towed in Zurich

Never mind the seemingly Stockholm Syndrome-esque put downs by some of the respondents here OP. Yes the fine is high but seems about right unfortunately.

Parking in a residence permit space would set you back a fine which is far less incidentally...! Private parking place = license to pull your pants down should you make the mistake...
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Re: Car towed in Zurich

Happened to me once also in Zurich, and I also did not realise parking was not allowed. 9pm on a saturday evening on a garage forecourt. Not only did they break my door lock as they had to get in to release the handbrake, but in towing the car (which is low off the ground) they scraped the front underneath badly. CHF 18,000 of repairs later they refused to pay, so issued a betreibungs and it ended up in court. Judge awarded me the amount, plus all costs and said the towing was anyway illegal, so all costs and fines were also squashed.

Moral, if towed check carefully there has been no damage to the car.
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Moral, if towed check carefully there has been no damage to the car.
No, the moral is that unless your friend or the business that you are visiting explicitly tells you that there are visitor parking spaces and where to park, there is no such thing as a free parking space in (or even around) Zurich*. Even if you did not end up paying anything in your case, the time invested is something you will never get back.


*yes, I realise people will now come up with dozens of exceptions, but this is what I tell outside visitors to be on the safe side.
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No, the moral is that unless your friend or the business that you are visiting explicitly tells you that there are visitor parking spaces and where to park, there is no such thing as a free parking space in (or even around) Zurich*. Even if you did not end up paying anything in your case, the time invested is something you will never get back.


*yes, I realise people will now come up with dozens of exceptions, but this is what I tell outside visitors to be on the safe side.
No, there were also public places (non customer) to park, but as it was dark and raining heavily I did not notice the place I took was reserved for the garage which was painted on the ground and the paint had faded. It was actually just outside Zurich and not in the centre.

As for the time I gave it to my lawyer so apart from a briefing it took very little of my time and I got a new front end to the car.
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No, there were also public places (non customer) to park, but as it was dark and raining heavily I did not notice the place I took was reserved for the garage which was painted on the ground and the paint had faded.[...]
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[...]unless your friend or the business that you are visiting explicitly tells you that there are visitor parking spaces and where to park, there is no such thing as a free parking space in (or even around) Zurich.
I quite literally mean "park here in this specific spot, nowhere else".
For instance, our visitor spaces are allocated to specific buildings and you need to have the correct visitor card visible in your car or you will get reported to the police, who issue a CHF 200 fine. It says at the front of the space "only for visitors of building x", and there is also a big sign in the middle of the parking lot (visible from everywhere) stating that unauthorised parking can carry a fine of up to CHF 2'000 (IIRC).

Some visitors feel that it does not matter where you park or cannot read or can't be bothered to put the visitor card in the car and have found themselves fined. To avoid this, I tell my guests to only use the spaces labelled "x" and go downstairs to meet them with the visitor card (keeping it in the letterbox led to it being stolen at some point). If they are full, I tell them to go to a nearby supermarket parking garage and offer to pay for the parking fees.

All quite ridiculous but it has ended up this way because there are always some opportunists (not to say parasites) who feel they can abuse the system and try and save a few francs at the expense of other people.

So to drive home my original point - if it is in any way ambiguous whether the parking spot is free or not, it probably isn't. One hint is that there is not already someone stood on it!
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Do NOT pay! Did you hire the company to tow the car? No, so they have no legal basis to issue a bill to you. As simple as that. Auftragsrecht nach Obligationenrecht (OR)

The owner will then have to come after you for the costs which you may or may not contest in court. Unless you blocked him in any way, the towing was not necessary and you will only need to pay a smallish fee (30-60CHF).
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Hello,

By mistake I parked my car in a private parking place when visiting a friend in Zurich and I had my car towed. I've call the police and they gave me a phone number of a garage. And I could manage to pick my car up one hour later, since it was not so far from the place.
My question is should I get a fine from Police? Or just the costs from the garage?

Thank you.

Marcos
Next time call the garage and DEMAND they return the car to you from where they took it immediately, otherwise you will report them for stealing your car.
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Next time call the garage and DEMAND they return the car to you from where they took it immediately, otherwise you will report them for stealing your car.
And you have done this successfully?
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