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Old 23.10.2018, 16:24
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Re: Buying and Fitting New Winter Tyres

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Just make sure they are new tyres, I ordered some for my Morgan and when they arrived at my local garage I looked at them and they were old stock and of dubious origin, after a lot of phone calls they accepted that I new how to read the various codes on the tyres and they refunded my money.
A good point for us to note because winter tyres tend to have slightly softer rubber for the grip and colder temperatures and old tires can cure and dry a bit meaning they have less grip and typically last 3-4 years even if you don't drive on them much while normal/summer tires last double that. So even if your winter tires have plenty of tread left you might want to check their age using NotAllThere's link.
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Old 23.10.2018, 16:47
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Re: Buying and Fitting New Winter Tyres

https://www.mobilemech.ch/ which is also reifendirekt actually and all belong to Delticom, that site had slightly lower prices than reifendirekt.ch for my case

the problem is some of the info they show is not correct, it says they ship same day if on stock and ordered before 1430, false. not sure how long will it take until they ship
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Re: Buying and Fitting New Winter Tyres

Hi all,

I wish to change the tyres to winter ones too. Read a lot in EF especially one very nice and detailed post from UrsMax if I am not wrong but still not clear which one to go for and where to order one.

I add a photo that I have found on the side wall of the door of my car(Audi A3 Sportback) so that you can advise me correctly about the size and so on.

I have also read that if I do not buy original rims then I must get a CoC (Certificate of Conformity). Is this true even if I buy them on pneudirekt.ch?

I went to Audi garage today and found that the cheapest possibility of winter tyres plus rims is CHF 1290./- including fitting charges.

Thank you all for your valuable time.

Have a great day.

Greetings

ps. I did not see any attachments on the preview post..I have to found out why and how to correctly attach a file
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Re: Buying and Fitting New Winter Tyres



maybe I am not allowed to upload anything as I am newbie here ;-)
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Old 07.11.2018, 12:32
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Re: Buying and Fitting New Winter Tyres

If I remember correctly, when I bought my non-original rims, the good folks at the Verkehrsamt did that for me in my first MFK. You are supposed to then keep the original document that they issue in the car at all times, along with the rest of the car's documents.

It'll be hard to advice you on the best rims and tires for your particular model (save some expert around here): I went to Euromaster and they looked at my car model and make, and suggest the good, better and best rims for me.
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Old 07.11.2018, 12:41
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Re: Buying and Fitting New Winter Tyres

I finally got my tires sorted this week
I ordered from reifendirekt.com as suggested by many on this forum and then had them delivered and fitted at a local business in Goldau called Pneu Bueler

The total cost was less than half what I would have paid at my usual garage, and competitive with cross the boarder, in fact the tires where cheaper than buying and fitting in UK which is unusual - and they were top spec

For fitting / replacing on rims, balancing and disposal of old total 50CHF for 4
changing the tires on the car a further 50CHF - all including VAT etc.

For CoC, then you do need to ensure that you have one, as if you take the car for an MFK, it will fail without one, and it needs to be the latest version (mine was an old version and resulted in failure, a re-test fee, and the cost of having an new CoC issued @ 85CHF)

The size of tires you should be able to see on the sides of the existing ones, you just have to choose the make and quality - for buying rims, I cannot help

Good Luck
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Hi all,
I add a photo that I have found on the side wall of the door of my car(Audi A3 Sportback) so that you can advise me correctly about the size and so on.
Easiest option is to get the same size and specs as your summer ones.

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I have also read that if I do not buy original rims then I must get a CoC (Certificate of Conformity). Is this true even if I buy them on pneudirekt.ch?
You will need a certificate if the new rims have different specs than the rims approved for your car. Do know what is approved for your car you would need an extract from the type approval database. You can get it from a garage or tyre dealer. It is called TARGA-Tyre extract and my cost CHF 5 in tip pot. If you order rims from pneudirekt.ch you normally have to provide the details of the car such as type appoval number. They then should cross check what is approved for your car, provided the needed spacers and conformity document.

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I went to Audi garage today and found that the cheapest possibility of winter tyres plus rims is CHF 1290./- including fitting charges.
If you like Audi rims get them from a garage in Germany. You must get them mounted in order to get VAT refunded. But check first with garage if they actually refund VAT as it is optional.
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Re: Buying and Fitting New Winter Tyres

For those in the Neuchâtel region- these guys have really good prices, are really nice, and will store for 30chf per season- and fit for free if you buy for them.

https://www.pneus-jeanneret.ch/

I'm sure we could have possibly found a tad cheaper in France- but to get such good service and reasonable storage- is great.
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Re: Buying and Fitting New Winter Tyres

Hi Odile, do you maybe also have a recommendation for a garage in your region?
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Re: Buying and Fitting New Winter Tyres

Hi Caleb, Neil Macleod, aSwissInTheUS, Odile,

Thank you all for your replies and valuable time.

Currently I have 225/45/R17 91Y summer tyres from Dunlop which is a original Audi ones.

As per the accepted rim sizes, R16, R17, R18..

For R16, 205 / 55 91H M + S

@aSwissInTheUS, it is right that the easiest option is just use the same rims and just buy the new tyres. But everyone in the forum suggest to buy the tyres with the rims so I hesitate..

In the reifendirekt.ch there are heaps of choices and which does not help to make the decision easily at all.

Well, thanks a lot and every suggestion or advice will be highly appreciated.

Greetings
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Re: Buying and Fitting New Winter Tyres

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No they are not, they maybe a little cheaper but once you factor in the time element and the driving element they have become more expensive.


A false economy !
Right.

Germany:
- Wheels storage per season: 40€
- Wheels change: 20€
- Drive to the garage just across the border: 10min

Switzerland:
- Wheels change + storage per season: 115CHF
- Drive to the garage where I had bought the car and originally stored my summer wheels: 50min


I did get my tyres from reifendirekt.ch though, as they are indeed competitive.


"Depends" is the answer, as usual.
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Hi Odile, do you maybe also have a recommendation for a garage in your region?
For what car, and what job? Great garages here, much cheaper than Lausanne- great bodyworkshop too, again much cheaper than L. Just depends what you want.

Our Subaru garage is great- very trustworthy, reasonable and very experienced. 55 mins from Lausanne if you avoid peak frontaliers times.

http://www.garagedupre.ch/ Thierry is a really good guy, but not sure about English (I could help there).
Could recommend others for different brands/cars.

and for bodywork

http://carrosserie-orsat.ch/ - again Blaise is totally trustworthy and does a great job. No English either (I could help there too).
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Hi Caleb, Neil Macleod, aSwissInTheUS, Odile,

Thank you all for your replies and valuable time.

Currently I have 225/45/R17 91Y summer tyres from Dunlop which is a original Audi ones.

As per the accepted rim sizes, R16, R17, R18..

For R16, 205 / 55 91H M + S

@aSwissInTheUS, it is right that the easiest option is just use the same rims and just buy the new tyres. But everyone in the forum suggest to buy the tyres with the rims so I hesitate..

In the reifendirekt.ch there are heaps of choices and which does not help to make the decision easily at all.

Well, thanks a lot and every suggestion or advice will be highly appreciated.

Greetings

If it were me I'd get a half decent set of alloys on ebay Germany and have them shipped to Germany to pick up (or look on Ricardo ) You might even be able to find a set with decent winter tyres on.

I'm sure 17" winter tyres must be homologated for your car too. It's easier/cheaper to have two sets of wheels and swap them over rather than swapping the tyres over but if you're going to get a garage to do the swap then it's simply your preference.



Many people only ever get the MFK done with the same set of wheels on and don't worry too much about the other set. i.e. there are likely to be many people driving around with perfectly appropriate but unregistered winter wheels.
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Many people only ever get the MFK done with the same set of wheels on and don't worry too much about the other set. i.e. there are likely to be many people driving around with perfectly appropriate but unregistered winter wheels.

How is this treated by the police and insurance in case of accidents?
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How is this treated by the police and insurance in case of accidents?

They don't/won't care at all in my experience as long as everything looks ok.
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Re: Buying and Fitting New Winter Tyres

If you have 2 sets of wheels, it then depends on when you are called for the MFK, in my case my winter rims had the "old style" certificate and failed the MFK instantly - I had to apply for an updated certificate at the cost of 85 CHF - the only difference I could see, was that they added the dimensions of the wheel nuts
On the MFK retest (which I had to pay again for) they took a wheel off and measured all the nuts with vernier calipers, before eventually passing - a very costly exercise, so be warned



Many people only ever get the MFK done with the same set of wheels on and don't worry too much about the other set. i.e. there are likely to be many people driving around with perfectly appropriate but unregistered winter wheels.[/QUOTE]
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Re: Buying and Fitting New Winter Tyres

In case someone is looking for Michelin winter tires/tyres, this CH site (CH company) has a 5% off special at the moment. Have not looked at relative prices from other sites as I have already gone for the Continental TS860 this time.

The savings is based on the item being in stock. The only model I would personally go for would be the new Alpine 6 if it is available for your car.

Link: https://e-pneu.ch/de
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In case someone is looking for Michelin winter tires/tyres, this CH site (CH company) has a 5% off special at the moment. Have not looked at relative prices from other sites as I have already gone for the Continental TS860 this time.

The savings is based on the item being in stock. The only model I would personally go for would be the new Alpine 6 if it is available for your car.

Link: https://e-pneu.ch/de
I just search the tires in internet or using a website like reifendirekt. When I found it I enter the tires into toppreise.ch or idealo.de, to get the price. just beware, if you buy the tires from Germany you have to have them on the car in order to get the VAT back.
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Re: Buying and Fitting New Winter Tyres

Hey guys,

Great thread, can I ask though, if I order from reifendirekt, do I also pay for the fitting online or does it guarantee a cost at the local garage ?

Just from someone’s experience ...

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Re: Buying and Fitting New Winter Tyres

Hi Mr T
I ordered from them and made my own arrangements at the garage
The garage is on their partner list, and when you place the order, it gives a link to garages in the area, but I had already made the arrangements - the garage phoned me when the tires arrived, and I just took the car in
I don`t believe that they get involved directly, just point you in the right direction
Hope it helps, but others may have more first hand experience
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