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hi, people. I need to ask your help. We are renting a car in Paris on January 16, driving to Nancy, Basel, Verbier and Chamonix.
Europecar does not have a car equipped with snow chains (all weather tires) at the pick up location. I think we need snow chains when we drive to Verbier and Chamonix. Where can we buy them? What is the price range? The car will be Peugeot 308 or similar. We will stay over night in Basel, taking the shortest route thru Bern before heading Verbier. So, maybe in near Basel or Bern.
appreciate your help. Mahalo!

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Re: snow chains

A lot will depend on the weather conditions, right now there's no snow in the valleys so at the moment you'd probably be fine even with worn summer tyres. Perhaps check a few webcams. Plus, where you need to go in particular may make a difference.

Snow chains are sold in the bigger DIY shops like Coop Bau+Hobby, Jumbo, etc. Prices start in the 50-60-70 CHF range.

Perhaps PM EF member fatmanfilms, he's probably staying there at this time of the year.

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Re: snow chains

Most petrol stations in CH sell snow chains.
They are usually the expensive ones, @chf 150

Just a bit of cloud can bring freezing rain, snow etc, so you’d be better off buying them before you head up to the resort and swallowing the cost.
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Old 03.01.2019, 13:59
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A lot will depend on the weather conditions, right now there's no snow in the valleys so at the moment you'd probably be fine even with worn summer tyres. Perhaps check a few webcams. Plus, where you need to go in particular may make a difference.

Snow chains are sold in the bigger DIY shops like Coop Bau+Hobby, Jumbo, etc. Prices start in the 50-60-70 CHF range.

Perhaps PM EF member fatmanfilms, he's probably staying there at this time of the year.

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I would buy from French supermarkets, the last ones I bought were €16, the cheaper ones are more of a fiddle to fit however I have only needed them when stopped by the Police driving up to Verbier after a heavy snowfall. Not needed them in Chamonix since 1999. I usually have had rear wheel drive BMW's with winter tyres, one season I has a 4x4 BMW & the police let me through.

There is currently ZERO snow on the roads & nothing expected....... so depending on your dates you may not need to bother.

Be aware after a heavy snow fall the road between Chamonix to Verbier (Martigny) may close due to avalanche risk meaning an extra 2 hours driving via Geneva or waiting to be allowed to drive through the train tunnel. I never bothered with the tunnel as the queues were so long & the time it's possible is very limited.
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I would buy from French supermarkets.
https://www.carrefour.fr/magasin

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[The car will be Peugeot 308 or similar.
Once you have the car, and you think you need chains due to weather conditions, check the cars tire dimension an get the correct chains.

Road conditions: https://www.tcs.ch/de/tools/verkehrs...uelle-lage.php


Important terms:
Wintersperre = ordinarily and usual winter closure.
Schneebdedckte Fahrbahn = snow covered road surface.
Winterausrüstung empfohlen = have at least winter tires, recommended to have chains with you.
Schneeketten obligatorisch/Schneekettenpflicht = chains mandatory (mounted).

You must mount chains when you see the left symbol, and you can remove them once you passed the right symbol.
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Old 03.01.2019, 15:14
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https://www.carrefour.fr/magasin


Once you have the car, and you think you need chains due to weather conditions, check the cars tire dimension an get the correct chains.

Road conditions: https://www.tcs.ch/de/tools/verkehrs...uelle-lage.php


Important terms:
Wintersperre = ordinarily and usual winter closure.
Schneebdedckte Fahrbahn = snow covered road surface.
Winterausrüstung empfohlen = have at least winter tires, recommended to have chains with you.
Schneeketten obligatorisch/Schneekettenpflicht = chains mandatory (mounted).

You must mount chains when you see the left symbol, and you can remove them once you passed the right symbol.
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Surely you just need to carry chains, not mount them unless it's necessary when the snow is deep. It's dangerous driving with chains in minimal snow as you have no grip when accelerating or breaking.
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Re: snow chains

It's essential to practice putting the chains on (and taking them off, obviously), before you need them. It's much easier to learn how to do it with the instructions to hand in full daylight in the dry rather than in the dark on a snow-covered mountain road with snow falling.
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Surely you just need to carry chains, not mount them
There is no legal need to have chains in the car. There is only a legal obligation to mount them given the sign above. That is all the traffic law specifies. So, yes, Schneekettenpflicht means you must mount them or you cannot proceed on the road until it is clear.

Unless it only applies to truck, coaches, or 4x4 are specifically exempt. But downhill breaking in snow is as bad in a 4x4 as a regular car. Which could mean you are allowed to drive up w/o chains but not down.
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Re: snow chains

Why not rent a 4x4 on winter tyres instead?b
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Old 03.01.2019, 16:53
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Why not rent a 4x4 on winter tyres instead?b
It's kind of unnecessary.
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thank you so much for your advice. Mahalo!

Thank you guys for your advice. We go skiing all over but this is the very first time in Europe and driving to the ski area, so we have no idea what is like. We are leaving in a week.
Mahalo from warm Honolulu!

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Re: snow chains

Make sure your snow chains are rated 120Km/hr like this Romanian car on the A13 motorway near Chur!
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Make sure your snow chains are rated 120Km/hr like this Romanian car on the A13 motorway near Chur!
Wow, was this "news"? Seriously? How did Medea miss it? lol

For your knowledge though - snow chains are quite frequently used during winter back home, so I totally understand the lad. Have a happy new year, Tom1234!
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For your knowledge though - snow chains are quite frequently used during winter back home, so I totally understand the lad.
Snow chains at 120+ on dry roads is common where you come from? Bizarre. Something tells me that if the car had Slovakian plates, you wouldn't have felt the need to reply.
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