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Old 03.01.2019, 12:34
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Einvernahme for excessive speeding +40 on autobahn

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Wanted to ask for an advice about Einvernahme invitation from the police, did someone has such experience? Long story short I got caught with a red! kind of flash laser on autobahn with 150 on my speedometer in a zone of 100, it is my first offense and a few weeks later I got a letter invitation for Einvernahme to a local police station where I live in canton Schwyz (blitzer was actually in canton St. Gallen). There was no form as usual to write driver details nor any numbers for measured speed, just a letter directly addressed to me . I don't know what should I say to them, to say that because of one idiot I lost my control for that moment and floored the gas pedal might make everything worse. Did someone went through such procedure? Other people reported that court decisions were made already and fines and punishments decided and given in a letter, but I have to go in person and in my bad German explain something...

PS. people with negativity and comments that I should be locked up, please, keep it to yourself, I already feel bad enough.
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Re: Einvernahme for excessive speeding +40 on autobahn

Well I'm no expert on this, but that sort of excess would mean an instant removal of licence had they stopped you, so I suspect that the reason they want to see you is that they want to take your licence away and tell you that you're no longer allowed to drive pending the case going through the system.
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I wouldn't try to offer any excuses or reasons, it may only dig you into a deeper hole (it would be hard to make any kind of reason not look like you lost control or concentration). Just be super-apologetic, they'll see that it's your first offence, and take whatever fine or ban they give you.
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Re: Einvernahme for excessive speeding +40 on autobahn

Many accounts and stories plus what will hapen and how much it will cost:
Serious Speeding - the law, the fines.

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No need to go, you could also write that you were the driver at that time. The best might be to remain silent about the circumstances. Unless you have an excuse where a live was in danger (for ex. you must rush to the hospital because the passenger was bleeding to death) there is no excuse at all which could reduce the sentence, but many to make it worse.

If you go, tell your name, maybe that you were the driver, and that they can get the income details for the wage based monetary fine from the tax authority. For all question, once again, remain silent.
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I am afraid it is written I have to go there, there is a deadline and some statement that if I don't appear than it will be dealt further with court (i guess just additional fees on top of this case of speeding)
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I am afraid it is written I have to go there, there is a deadline and some statement that if I don't appear than it will be dealt further with court (i guess just additional fees on top of this case of speeding)
It will go to the court any way and there will be court fees anyway as well.

What is the exact wording on the invite?
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I wouldn't try to offer any excuses or reasons, it may only dig you into a deeper hole (it would be hard to make any kind of reason not look like you lost control or concentration). Just be super-apologetic, they'll see that it's your first offence, and take whatever fine or ban they give you.
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Total silence might be considered also as a form of non-cooperation, and it won't buy you any sympathy from the officers - not that that always helps.

Sure, giving reasons might be pointless, too. But one thing you can do, is to express acknowledgement of the information that they already gave to you and establish that you are now aware of it -such as on speed limit and location of sensor for policy enforcement - you want to become and/or remain complying.
i.e. Focus on facts of the road, not facts of the moment, to build some ground.

The fact they ask you to be present might imply they wish to establish a legal base about the next act, which is to pursue a person to court - this won't be an easy outcome, so be ready for eventualities.

But at least, realise that they are doing their job: collect information about why drivers are breaking the speed limit at that location and deciding on next steps.

If there are more drivers speeding in that location, this might hint in something needing to change on their end. And yes, you are quite not alone in this: I have recently been fined in the Zurich area for speeding at 52Km/hr (a bit over 50: 55km/hr real minus 3km/hr margin), after 10 years of no fines, and I would surely had avoided it, if I the indications were more clear: I do try to stay legit and safe. But roads and signs aren't always perfect, even in Switzerland.
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Old 03.01.2019, 18:49
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Re: Einvernahme for excessive speeding +40 on autobahn

Sympathy does not come into it, OP committed a crime, evidence exists there is nothing to add.

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Hi,

Total silence might be considered also as a form of non-cooperation, and it won't buy you any sympathy from the officers - not that that always helps.

Sure, giving reasons might be pointless, too. But one thing you can do, is to express acknowledgement of the information that they already gave to you and establish that you are now aware of it -such as on speed limit and location of sensor for policy enforcement - you want to become and/or remain complying.
i.e. Focus on facts of the road, not facts of the moment, to build some ground.

The fact they ask you to be present might imply they wish to establish a legal base about the next act, which is to pursue a person to court - this won't be an easy outcome, so be ready for eventualities.

But at least, realise that they are doing their job: collect information about why drivers are breaking the speed limit at that location and deciding on next steps.

If there are more drivers speeding in that location, this might hint in something needing to change on their end. And yes, you are quite not alone in this: I have recently been fined in the Zurich area for speeding at 52Km/hr (a bit over 50: 55km/hr real minus 3km/hr margin), after 10 years of no fines, and I would surely had avoided it, if I the indications were more clear: I do try to stay legit and safe. But roads and signs aren't always perfect, even in Switzerland.
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Sympathy does not come into it, OP committed a crime, evidence exists there is nothing to add.
Committed what is considered a crime in SWITZERLAND ONLY, if I made an accident and caused the damage or injuries that is universal understanding of the crime.
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You're going to jail .
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Re: Einvernahme for excessive speeding +40 on autobahn

I did it years ago, just wanted to confirm my name and salary. All the rest is done by post. You can choose between a fine or days in jail. If they take your license you can choose when, you can also pay a fine in installments. Please note that you may be on probabation for a couple of years, meaning no more infringements.
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to say that because of one idiot I lost my control for that moment and floored the gas pedal might make everything worse.
You can say a lot of things, but saying that you lost control is one of the most dumbs things you can say because you would admit that emotionally you are not capable to participate in traffic.

Just tell them the truth (unless the truth is that you actually lost control), be friendly and understanding. You are a grown up and you knew what you where doing.
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Hello everyone,

Wanted to ask for an advice about Einvernahme invitation from the police, did someone has such experience? Long story short I got caught with a red! kind of flash laser on autobahn with 150 on my speedometer in a zone of 100, it is my first offense and a few weeks later I got a letter invitation for Einvernahme to a local police station where I live in canton Schwyz (blitzer was actually in canton St. Gallen). There was no form as usual to write driver details nor any numbers for measured speed, just a letter directly addressed to me . I don't know what should I say to them, to say that because of one idiot I lost my control for that moment and floored the gas pedal might make everything worse. Did someone went through such procedure? Other people reported that court decisions were made already and fines and punishments decided and given in a letter, but I have to go in person and in my bad German explain something...

PS. people with negativity and comments that I should be locked up, please, keep it to yourself, I already feel bad enough.

yep, I had the same. I drove even faster as I overlooked a sign placed on the ground of road maintenance saying 80kmh and I drove 140kmh right into a laser beam from an undercover police car. they called me 10 mins on my mobile(!) after the flash n ordered me immediately to return to some Police station. they almost handcuffed me, took my license on the spot and locked down my car in the compound. if it was that i had refused to come in, they would have sent a police car to my home to the arrest me n stuff. then they filed a report, I confessed it all straight away (lucky me) and ended up getting the full menu from the federal prosecutor. 5k (instead of regular 15k) fine plus a 25k threat as 2-year probation and no license for another 3 months. it was in my favor that how it went was no story but could be logically proven: 2 lorries blocked the view, I overlooked the sign when I accelerated to overtake the slow driving trucks... bam. that lowered it to 5k. I called the prosecutor n asked what it meant, being caught speeding another time because in the 2 years probation and after that time. I would have sold the car and stopped driving in CH forever when it might have meant with absolute 100% no speeding as its impossible for instance to drive 120kmh sharp. to concentrate like a loony on the tachometer would make driving impossible. what it means is another excessive violation of speed limits. phew! I am "clean" for 3 years and counting. *knock on wood*
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yep, I had the same. I drove even faster as I overlooked a sign placed on the ground of road maintenance saying 80kmh and I drove 140kmh right into a laser beam from an undercover police car. they called me 10 mins on my mobile(!) after the flash n ordered me immediately to return to some Police station. they almost handcuffed me, took my license on the spot and locked down my car in the compound. if it was that i had refused to come in, they would have sent a police car to my home to the arrest me n stuff. then they filed a report, I confessed it all straight away (lucky me) and ended up getting the full menu from the federal prosecutor. 5k (instead of regular 15k) fine plus a 25k threat as 2-year probation and no license for another 3 months. it was in my favor that how it went was no story but could be logically proven: 2 lorries blocked the view, I overlooked the sign when I accelerated to overtake the slow driving trucks... bam. that lowered it to 5k. I called the prosecutor n asked what it meant, being caught speeding another time because in the 2 years probation and after that time. I would have sold the car and stopped driving in CH forever when it might have meant with absolute 100% no speeding as its impossible for instance to drive 120kmh sharp. to concentrate like a loony on the tachometer would make driving impossible. what it means is another excessive violation of speed limits. phew! I am "clean" for 3 years and counting. *knock on wood*
Thanks for sharing the story, I will see how it goes during this Einvernahme, hopefully nothing will be confiscated ��
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Here's where you made your other mistake.

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PS. people with negativity and comments that I should be locked up, please, keep it to yourself, I already feel bad enough.
It just was never going to happen.
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