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Luther 21.01.2019 16:12

Temporary car
 
As we will move to Lausanne area from UK in April, I was thinking to rent a temporary car while settling and than looking to buy a new car.

Any recommendation in term of providers?

Thanks

Luther

EdwinNL 21.01.2019 16:22

Re: Temporary car
 
I always just use https://www.rentalcars.com

And play a little with the dates, I've had situations where renting the same car at the same company 2 days longer brought the price down :msnshock:

Guest 21.01.2019 16:29

Re: Temporary car
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Luther (Post 3032604)
As we will move to Lausanne area from UK in April, I was thinking to rent a temporary car while settling and than looking to buy a new car.

Any recommendation in term of providers?

Thanks

Luther

Join Mobility then you can just use a car when you need it.

Verbier 21.01.2019 16:42

Re: Temporary car
 
One of the least expensive options (especially if you decide to go for a month to give you the time to find a car) is ENZOLOCATION. They are a local company. Located in the centre of Lausanne.

If needed, they also have automatic cars.

Website: http://enzolocation.ch/

dxdydz 22.01.2019 13:59

Re: Temporary car
 
Wow, enzolocation has sweet prices for swiss standards. Do you know any similar place in aargau or Zurich?
Another option is the twingo-rent from Basel for 555chf/mo.

LuganoPirate 22.01.2019 15:00

Re: Temporary car
 
I don't have a car anymore in Switzerland, so when I'm there I rent direct from Hertz. You can apply for a card which gives 30% off and if you have certain credit cards (Amex,, Corner Bank Visa) you won't need the extra insurance. I'm now at President's Circle level which means I get 2 upgrades, 1 because I always rent from the same place, and the other due to my status with them. I find it works out cheaper than buying a car.

Depending on how much you use the car, and you closeness to the station or collect point, Mobilty is also a good option.

I don't like rentalcars.com because of the deposit policy. The rental co take a much larger deposit and I'm still waiting to get my deposit released back to my card from a recent rental in South Africa.

Luther 05.02.2019 08:49

Re: Temporary car
 
Looking around, I discovered that renting a car in Geneva and generally in all Switzerland costs the double versus renting in Annecy, France that is 45 min from Geneva. As I need a temporary car for 2-3 months, we are talking of relevant money (400-500 per month). Anyone tried to rent a car in France to travel to Switzerland? Despite the burden to reach Annecy, it looks worth.

Thanks

Luther

k_and_e 05.02.2019 09:05

Re: Temporary car
 
If you are a resident in Switzerland, you can't drive a car with French plates in Switzerland.
There are more posts about this topic on the forum. Just do a search.

st2lemans 05.02.2019 09:06

Re: Temporary car
 
If you live in Switzerland, you are not allowed to rent a car in France.

Tom

Clocker 05.02.2019 09:13

Re: Temporary car
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by st2lemans (Post 3038001)
If you live in Switzerland, you are not allowed to rent a car in France.

Wrong! If you are registered as a legal resident in Switzerland you are prohibited from driving a foreign-plated vehicle in Switzerland.

My husband lived in Switzerland and drove a car in Switzerland hired from Basel Airport (French side) with French plates, however he was not legally resident here, so we could take advantage of the price difference and save money. ;)

st2lemans 05.02.2019 09:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Clocker (Post 3038007)
My husband lived in Switzerland and drove a car in Switzerland hired from Basel Airport (French side) with French plates, however he was not legally resident here

So he was living here illegally? :confused:

Tom

Clocker 05.02.2019 09:36

Re: Temporary car
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by st2lemans (Post 3038009)
So he was living here illegally?

Where you live and where you legally reside are two entirely different things. First of all you're assuming my husband's nationality. :rolleyes:

Secondly you are assuming he wasn't here with a Permit G for example. :rolleyes:

Holders of said permit can live in Switzerland. They continue to be legally resident in another country.

Thousands of cross border workers live in Switzerland, de facto residents, but legally resident elsewhere. I believe they only have to spend one night per week outside of Switzerland or exit and enter once (not sure of the exact wording of the rule/law). ;)

Thirdly you are assuming he was living in CH for more than 3 months. Stays of less than 3 months do not require a permit and you continue to be a legal resident of another country during that time. ;)

grumpygrapefruit 05.02.2019 09:45

Re: Temporary car
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by st2lemans (Post 3038001)
If you live in Switzerland, you are not allowed to rent a car in France.

Tom

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clocker (Post 3038007)
Wrong! If you are registered as a legal resident in Switzerland you are prohibited from driving a foreign-plated vehicle in Switzerland.

My husband lived in Switzerland and drove a car in Switzerland hired from Basel Airport (French side) with French plates, however he was not legally resident here, so we could take advantage of the price difference and save money. ;)

But what has this got to do with the OP who will be resident here in Switzerland?

Clocker 05.02.2019 09:46

Re: Temporary car
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by grumpygrapefruit (Post 3038021)
But what has this got to do with the OP who will be resident here in Switzerland?

No idea where user Luther is resident. Profile states location is UK.
For as long as they are not registered in CH, the option of renting in France is still open. ;)

k_and_e 05.02.2019 09:48

Re: Temporary car
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Clocker (Post 3038023)
No idea where user Luther is resident. Profile states location is UK.
For as long as they are not registered in CH, the option of renting in France is still open. ;)


"we will move to Lausanne"

grumpygrapefruit 05.02.2019 09:49

Re: Temporary car
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Luther (Post 3032604)
As we will move to Lausanne area from UK in April, I was thinking to rent a temporary car while settling and than looking to buy a new car.

Any recommendation in term of providers?

Thanks

Luther

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clocker (Post 3038023)
No idea where user Luther is resident. Profile states location is UK.
For as long as they are not registered in CH, the option of renting in France is still open. ;)

Why not just read their post?

Clocker 07.02.2019 07:02

Re: Temporary car
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by grumpygrapefruit (Post 3038025)
Why not just read their post?

I did. ;)

Luther 07.02.2019 14:58

Re: Temporary car
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Clocker (Post 3038023)
No idea where user Luther is resident. Profile states location is UK.
For as long as they are not registered in CH, the option of renting in France is still open. ;)

I will just relocate to Lausanne when moving, not sure how long the practice to became resident, but start working end of April

Clocker 07.02.2019 15:09

Re: Temporary car
 
You have three months to register after you arrive and you only become a legal resident once you have registered.

However you are meant to register before you start working, so this reduces the time you have available to do things like drive a non-Swiss-plated vehicle in Switzerland whilst you are still a non-resident. ;)

Good luck with the relocation! :)

Guest 07.02.2019 15:16

Re: Temporary car
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Clocker (Post 3039002)
You have three months to register after you arrive and you only become a legal resident once you have registered.

However you are meant to register before you start working, so this reduces the time you have available to do things like drive a non-Swiss-plated vehicle in Switzerland whilst you are still a non-resident. ;)

Good luck with the relocation! :)

If you are here in an any capacity other than a tourist, and reading between the lines in the OP's case, it seems to be a work move, you have to register within 14 days:

Quote:

"Gainful employment of more than 3 months:

Within 14 days of their arrival and before actually taking up work, nationals of EU-27/EFTA states have to register with the local authorities of the commune in which they are residing and apply for a residence permit. A valid ID or passport and a written confirmation of employment (e.g. the contract of employment containing details of the duration of employment and the number of working hours) have to be presented. A residence permit will be issued depending on the duration of employment: a short-term residence permit (type L permit) for employment of up to 364 days or a residence permit (type B permit) for employment of at least one year or for an unlimited period."

https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home...aq.html#Taking up residence and gainful employment

Clocker 07.02.2019 15:38

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Quote:

If you are here in an any capacity other than a tourist, and reading between the lines in the OP's case, it seems to be a work move, you have to register within 14 days:
Which indeed would reduce the time frame even further, unless they arrive sooner.

EdwinNL 07.02.2019 16:03

Re: Temporary car
 
21 postings so far, and 12 of them due to somebody failing to read or understand the question...

Urs Max 07.02.2019 18:14

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When does one start residence, by moving in or by registering with the commune? My money would be on the former.

OP, perhaps check prices on an aggregator like mietwagen-check.ch. Prices for one month, for example, start at around 800 CHF.

Clocker 07.02.2019 19:52

Re: Temporary car
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Urs Max (Post 3039069)
When does one start residence, by moving in or by registering with the commune?

Depends on what date you give them.

Tox_Rat 07.02.2019 19:54

Re: Temporary car
 
In my case, I became a resident the day I crossed the border into Switzerland and my passport was stamped and the entry permit invalidated. But I'm a 3rd country citizen.

I'm not really sure when it starts for an EU citizen, though.

Clocker 07.02.2019 20:01

Re: Temporary car
 
Since there are no entry stamps for EU citizens it's normally on the date you tell them. I've always specified a logical date around the time of moving and this has been accepted no questions asked.

st2lemans 07.02.2019 21:22

Re: Temporary car
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Clocker (Post 3039117)
Since there are no entry stamps for EU citizens it's normally on the date you tell them. I've always specified a logical date around the time of moving and this has been accepted no questions asked.

Fine as long as you aren't working. ;)

If you are working, and don't have a G permit, you are resident at the latest on the day you start work.

Tom

Clocker 07.02.2019 21:30

Re: Temporary car
 
Exactly. Which is why if the OP arrives earlier and registers just before they start working they will not have any issue or complication with the rental of the non-Swiss-plated car during that time. ;)

st2lemans 07.02.2019 21:46

Re: Temporary car
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Clocker (Post 3039164)
Exactly. Which is why if the OP arrives earlier and registers just before they start working they will not have any issue or complication with the rental of the non-Swiss-plated car during that time. ;)

OP arrives in April and starts working in April, so days or weeks tops, hardly a savings worth the trouble. ;)

Tom

Clocker 08.02.2019 07:41

Re: Temporary car
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by st2lemans (Post 3039172)
OP arrives in April and starts working in April, so days or weeks tops, hardly a savings worth the trouble.

Price difference for some cars is quite significant which is precisely why we rented it from the French side. I think overall we saved nearly 50%. :)

Urs Max 08.02.2019 10:03

Re: Temporary car
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Clocker (Post 3039164)
Exactly. Which is why if the OP arrives earlier and registers just before they start working they will not have any issue or complication with the rental of the non-Swiss-plated car during that time. ;)

Unless they have an accident and things get taken a closer look at.

The date you register is when you announce your decision to the authorities, make it official if you will, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's the date that counts. Actually I would expect the move-in date to be relevant.

st2lemans 08.02.2019 10:57

Re: Temporary car
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Urs Max (Post 3039278)
Unless they have an accident and things get taken a closer look at.

Or a control by customs. ;)

Tom

Luther 08.02.2019 14:14

Re: Temporary car
 
Does anyone know the below provider?

Prices look good with the limitation that you have to rent for at least 6 months

https://www.upto.ch/en/

Thanks

L

EdwinNL 08.02.2019 14:21

Re: Temporary car
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Urs Max (Post 3039278)
Unless they have an accident and things get taken a closer look at.

"Oh, hey we see you have a long term rental contract, so you intended to stay longer than 3 months in our opinion, so hey here we have this law which says you must have registered within 14 days, but it is alright, here have a tasty bill of several thousands for importfraude."

Saving a couple of hundreds always sounds so nice, but when you give it a thought of 10 seconds max, one should realise how dumb some ideas are in reality.

Quote:

The date you register is when you announce your decision to the authorities, make it official if you will, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's the date that counts. Actually I would expect the move-in date to be relevant.
That date indeed, I for example had to give my destination when signing out of my old country, and also I had to show my signing out papers when applying for a permit and it got backdated to that exact day. Surely one can commit fraude with such, and surely permit fraude is a reason to not grant a permit at all, meaning bye bye OP, can't go to work here, but still having a valid rental contract to pay up for while having to leave the country.

Such small savings is simply not worth the hassle it can bring.

Clocker 08.02.2019 15:45

Re: Temporary car
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EdwinNL (Post 3039407)
I for example had to give my destination when signing out of my old country, and also I had to show my signing out papers when applying for a permit

I've never heard of the Swiss authorities asking for signing out papers from a previous country. In some countries no such documents exist. I've lived in 5 countries and departed from 4. Switzerland was the only one where I notified departure. :rolleyes:

maypril 08.02.2019 16:01

Re: Temporary car
 
OP, if a car is something you really need, I'm almost sure you will find one to buy within 2-3 weeks. Renting a car from France to save some money in those 2-3 weeks is really nothing compared to the potential complications.

EdwinNL 08.02.2019 16:06

Re: Temporary car
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Clocker (Post 3039435)
I've never heard of the Swiss authorities asking for signing out papers from a previous country.

Well, now you have.

Clocker 08.02.2019 16:12

Re: Temporary car
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EdwinNL (Post 3039448)
Well, now you have.

Do you per chance have a link to that information? I would be interested in looking into it. I don't understand what the Swiss need that document for and why they ask for it when some nationalities will never be able to provide it. :confused:

EdwinNL 08.02.2019 16:31

Re: Temporary car
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Clocker (Post 3039451)
Do you per chance have a link to that information? I would be interested in looking into it. I don't understand what the Swiss need that document for and why they ask for it when some nationalities will never be able to provide it. :confused:

Don't know, don't care tbh. They asked me for it and I gave it to them. I came here from the Netherlands. And I assume things differ depending on from what country one comes, no clue how it works when coming from the UK but I don't assume how it works like you do. But assuming like you do that it will all be fine since your personal story which is different from OP has shown so is not the way to go when giving advice.

Clocker 17.02.2019 14:58

Re: Temporary car
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EdwinNL (Post 3039466)
Don't know, don't care tbh. They asked me for it and I gave it to them.

Nothing on the relevant website about this though. :confused:


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