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Risky buying a used diesel car?

I am looking at 2 used Nissan Primera from around 2003. One is Diesel and one is Petrol. I am not aware of any differences in road tax or other restrictions in Switzerland. However, it seems like many countries and foreign cities are making life harder and harder for diesel car owners. Is there anything similar on the horizon in Switzerland? The car is only around 3000 CHF, but a change in taxes or vehicle inspection standards may end up being expensive. I may end up reselling it in 3 years time if we move, or perhaps use it for another couple of years.

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Re: Risky buying a used diesel car?

Each canton has a different way of levying road tax, fuel isn't always considered.. in Basel Land it's the weight of the vehicle.

https://www.ch.ch/en/vehicle-tax/ might help

A couple of German cities have placed restrictions on some diesel cars (and some parts of London might also be effected).. but.. I think (as the owner of 2 diesel cars) that while demonising diesel has been a trend over the past few years there's little evidence that they'll be made obsolete anytime soon.... and it has pushed prices down.. so there are some serious bargains out there.
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I am looking at 2 used Nissan Primera from around 2003. One is Diesel and one is Petrol. I am not aware of any differences in road tax or other restrictions in Switzerland. However, it seems like many countries and foreign cities are making life harder and harder for diesel car owners. Is there anything similar on the horizon in Switzerland? The car is only around 3000 CHF, but a change in taxes or vehicle inspection standards may end up being expensive. I may end up reselling it in 3 years time if we move, or perhaps use it for another couple of years.

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https://www.englishforum.ch/transpor...nspection.html


In another thread, you are trying to get rid of a Nissan Primera 2003... and now you are looking to buy the same model?? What is it exactly you are trying to do?


Anyway, for a car this old, buy one that just passed MFK and run it to the ground. When the next MFK comes up and it fails and the fix is significant, then drive it to the nearest scrapyard. If an exporter do accept it, you will get the amount of the fuel in the tank.


Some cities in France and Germany have introduced these "emissions" stickers so you can drive into city centers, but I'm not sure how strictly it is implemented. If you often drive in these cities, then get a petrol.
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In another thread, you are trying to get rid of a Nissan Primera 2003... and now you are looking to buy the same model?? What is it exactly you are trying to do?

It's very simple. My car failed the vehicle inspection, and is too expensive to repair. I like the model though, so I intend to buy a similar car.

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It's very simple. My car failed the vehicle inspection, and is too expensive to repair. I like the model though, so I intend to buy a similar car.

Thanks for the advice!
What exactly failed? How is spending another 3000 CHF cheaper than fixing an old banger? I drive a 2005 Mazda and it's been very cheap to keep it running despite age. Perhaps all you need is a cheaper mechanic and some parts from Amazon...
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Re: Risky buying a used diesel car?

I don't foresee any ban coming to Switzerland, especially not in 3-5 years. Even if it was a problem, efficacy would be very limited since cars are generally quite new. Tax is probably going to be based more and more on CO2 but at least some part will remain with weight, and it will not be a steep increase from one year to another.
Germany is a bit unique because it's a legal challenge the environment NGOs is bringing forward and courts are generally accepting thanks to current regulations. In any case if you want to go to cities in Germany with diesel don't buy less than euro4.
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Re: Risky buying a used diesel car?

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I don't foresee any ban coming to Switzerland, especially not in 3-5 years. Even if it was a problem, efficacy would be very limited since cars are generally quite new. Tax is probably going to be based more and more on CO2 but at least some part will remain with weight, and it will not be a steep increase from one year to another.
Germany is a bit unique because it's a legal challenge the environment NGOs is bringing forward and courts are generally accepting thanks to current regulations. In any case if you want to go to cities in Germany with diesel don't buy less than euro4.
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What exactly failed? How is spending another 3000 CHF cheaper than fixing an old banger? I drive a 2005 Mazda and it's been very cheap to keep it running despite age. Perhaps all you need is a cheaper mechanic and some parts from Amazon...
Part of the reason is the high cost of labour around here. Another reason is that the vehicle inspection is ridiculously strict. They even demanded I fix an electrical window that would not come down.......A dozen minor problems like that easily adds up.......
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