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Commuting Montreux - Lausanne

Good morning.

We are considering to register my daughter, 5 year old, at St George International School in Montreux.

As I will work in central Lausanne, 1km from the train station, can you give me an idea of the commuting time by car, to an from, during the week?

Would be worth consider the train? If yea any monthly or annual ticket to save money?

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Good morning.

We are considering to register my daughter, 5 year old, at St George International School in Montreux.

As I will work in central Lausanne, 1km from the train station, can you give me an idea of the commuting time by car, to an from, during the week?

Would be worth consider the train? If yea any monthly or annual ticket to save money?

Thanks

Luther



Don't even think about it, take the train to Lausanne and then bus or walk to work.


By car....45-60 mins providing you have a parking place at work.


Maybe look at other schools in the area.......Haut Lac for instance
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Good morning.

We are considering to register my daughter, 5 year old, at St George International School in Montreux.

As I will work in central Lausanne, 1km from the train station, can you give me an idea of the commuting time by car, to an from, during the week?

Would be worth consider the train? If yea any monthly or annual ticket to save money?

Thanks

Luther
By car it's hit or miss depending on the day, weather and route you take.

On the train it's an easy commute. There are monthly passes or the yearly all access pass. Look on the CFF website. It's all detailed there.
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Re: Commuting Montreux - Lausanne

At 5 I can't see she will enjoy the commute and given the education level not sure the private vs public school difference is worth all that effort to be honest.
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At 5 I can't see she will enjoy the commute and given the education level not sure the private vs public school difference is worth all that effort to be honest.
Thank you for the answers. I will commute, not her. The reason for St. George is that she actually is in a British school and only speaks English. St George will ensure she can continue her British education and at the same time 40% of the lessons will be in French so that she can learn French and integrate. In Lausanne there is the International School of Lausanne but my wife visited the school and was quite disorganised. Put her in a public school is not an option as she doesn’t speak French.
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Re: Commuting Montreux - Lausanne

At 5 years old she'll pick it up quicker than a dog picks up fleas !!


You have made the elementary error of comparing her learning skills to yours !


In public schools here, she will have extra French lessons (which will be fantastic if she is growing up bilngual) for first 6-12 months after which she will be perfectly at ease in French.


Look at Haut Lac if you really want to continue education in English, but it is a little short sighted.
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Thank you for the answers. I will commute, not her. The reason for St. George is that she actually is in a British school and only speaks English. St George will ensure she can continue her British education and at the same time 40% of the lessons will be in French so that she can learn French and integrate. In Lausanne there is the International School of Lausanne but my wife visited the school and was quite disorganised. Put her in a public school is not an option as she doesn’t speak French.

Well you are not correct with your assumption she can't enter school without French. They will teach her French and within a year you will be shocked how good she is.

Are you looking to stay here long term?

Another aspect to think about is integration with other kids.

I have 2 kids in swiss school who spoke very very basic French when they started and now fluent French speakers.
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Re: Commuting Montreux - Lausanne

Welcome to the Forum, Luther, and to Switzerland.


Unfortunately, you have kicked a hornet's nest with your question even though you never had that intention.


You've asked about the commute, by car, from Montreux and Lausanne, and have received the correct response, i.e. it sucks and everyone takes the train. Full stop. You might be extrapolating your experience with public transport in the UK with the system here, but it is nothing like that. The train from Montreux and Lausanne is about 17 minutes, each time, every time. It's brilliant.


The hornet's nest is the off-hand comment you made about your non-French speaking daughter and putting her in private school. You will receive about 100 responses telling you that you are doing your daughter a disservice.



How long are you going to be here? If you are going to be here longer than three years, you should just put her in the public school. They deal with many, many, many non-French speaking students. She will be fluent in French in about 18 months to two years, plus she will be friends with all of the local kids.
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Welcome to the Forum, Luther, and to Switzerland.


Unfortunately, you have kicked a hornet's nest with your question even though you never had that intention.


You've asked about the commute, by car, from Montreux and Lausanne, and have received the correct response, i.e. it sucks and everyone takes the train. Full stop. You might be extrapolating your experience with public transport in the UK with the system here, but it is nothing like that. The train from Montreux and Lausanne is about 17 minutes, each time, every time. It's brilliant.


The hornet's nest is the off-hand comment you made about your non-French speaking daughter and putting her in private school. You will receive about 100 responses telling you that you are doing your daughter a disservice.



How long are you going to be here? If you are going to be here longer than three years, you should just put her in the public school. They deal with many, many, many non-French speaking students. She will be fluent in French in about 18 months to two years, plus she will be friends with all of the local kids.

We are going to stay in Switzerland hopefully many years.

The reason for which we want to register our daughter in a private English school is because she was born in the UK and we don't want she looses her English while at the same time she can learn French as both my wife and I are not English, We think this can be the best solution in the short- medium term.

No problems about the answers, anyone provides his own opinion and we accept that.

Thank you again
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Re: Commuting Montreux - Lausanne

But to groan the excellent advice give by The Spouse, is way out of order, sorry.

I totally agree with her btw.

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We are going to stay in Switzerland hopefully many years.

The reason for which we want to register our daughter in a private English school is because she was born in the UK and we don't want she looses her English while at the same time she can learn French as both my wife and I are not English, We think this can be the best solution in the short- medium term.

No problems about the answers, anyone provides his own opinion and we accept that.

Thank you again

You really are ungrateful groaning good advice from people with a wealth of experience: sort yourself out seeing you know absolutely everything.
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But to groan the excellent advice give by The Spouse, is way out of order, sorry.

I totally agree with her btw.
The spouse, sorry, absolutely no intention to groan your advice, I just did it by mistake. You gave a very courteous advice, so absolutely no reasons.

Again my apologies
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Re: Commuting Montreux - Lausanne

Hi Luther. Ok so to give another viewpoint, I do this more or less. We have three children who are at school just above montreux in blonay and I drive to lausanne to work. The commute by car or the train is much of a muchness it takes about 45 mins door to door on average either way. Sometimes quicker sometimes a little slower but it’s not significant. Train is greener but car is more quality time because your in your own car. Everyone has their own viewpoint.

For school the internationals are good but they do add significant cost. It depends on your reason and plan. If you are on a placement then it makes sense as you will definitely exit ch at some point. If you plan to stay for a long time though the locals are really a good idea - our kids all speak English at home and French at school. As said, your kids get intensive French lessons as part of their entry into the swiss local school system and they definitely don’t forget English. We also give ours a short English written lesson each week which is run by a local lady, there are many such out of school courses if it’s the written aspect you are concerned about. For spoken, it’s really nothing - they learn both without difficulty.

If you plan to stay here thinknfuture planning. The older they are the harder it is to switch between the international and local. If your here long term get them in local now and don’t spend 5 years and tens of thousands of francs before doing the cutover by which time the kids will all have made their friends.m

Good luck with the move. There is a good expat community in the area.
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Re: Commuting Montreux - Lausanne

You are forgiven, Luther. I try to be nice to newbies.


Having said that, I told you this was going to become a post about your daughter, did I not? Reading your response, I think that there is another culture that has been added to the mix and so I might change my advice.


You and your spouse are not British, but your daughter is and you are obviously proud of that and want to make sure that she does not lose her "Britishness", even though you are moving to a French-speaking area of Switzerland.


What language do you and your wife speak at home? If it is not English, then you will have to find an activity for your child where she speaks English, if you put her in the public school where she will soon be speaking French all day.



It appears that you have decided that she will get this English in an international school situation, which is fine, but her French will suffer.
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which, looking long term ahead- would make ti very difficult to attend a Swiss University or do a Swiss apprenticeship, etc. It is a choice.
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Re: Commuting Montreux - Lausanne

Thank you all for the advice.

As my company will pay for the school, we will register our daughter to St. George for 1-2 years in order to allow her a smoother transition.

When in 2 years she will become bilingual, I agree it can make sense to move her to a different school.

Looking forward to be part of this community

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Thank you all for the advice.

As my company will pay for the school, we will register our daughter to St. George for 1-2 years in order to allow her a smoother transition.

When in 2 years she will become bilingual, I agree it can make sense to move her to a different school.

Looking forward to be part of this community

Thansk

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Unfortunately, you are dreaming if you think your daughter will become bilingual in 2 years going to an English private school. Others will confirm it; there is no way this will happen.

Yes, she will be close to bilingual in 2 years if you put her into the CH school system which is very good. To say, almost all of the Swiss put their children into the public school system.

As others have mentioned, it will be even more difficult to make the transfer into the CH school system in 2-3 years .
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Re: Commuting Montreux - Lausanne

But he will probably acquire an American accent

Honestly, it is not easy and hard choices have to be made. Just depends on what you imagine your future to be like and where- and of course. as so many have found here on this Forum know so well, plans do change, for the better or worse, or just different.

It will be 100x more easy for your young child to integrate and learn French now, in the informal first years of Swiss school- rather than later. It is of course your choice, and we are all different.
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I have one of each with my kids, no idea why! So who knows there depends on teachers/friends etc.

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It will be 100x more easy for your young child to integrate and learn French now, in the informal first years of Swiss school- rather than later. It is of course your choice, and we are all different.
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No problems about the answers, anyone provides his own opinion and we accept that.
When you groan at someone who gives excellent advice it only tells us a lot about you. I’d suggest you remove it and grow up. But I betting you’ll groan me as well!
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