Tesla Fan Boy Thread

	Quote:	AbFab
	Pardon my ignorance, but I though wheel sizes referred to the rim sizes and that the tyre wall profiles on a 22" were much lower than an 18". If the wheels with tyres were larger diameter then the speedo readings would be way out changing from one size to another...

I'm as ignorant as you on this subject. I also assumed that the total diameter of the "wheel" (as the Swiss call rim + tyre) must be constant, whatever the rim size. However, there is a setting on Teslas where you have to nominate the type of wheel you have fitted, and it's not just to make the avatar look pretty. An acquaintance in the motor trade told me that it's the width of the tyre, and consequent friction with the road, that is the issue, but I'm not convinced that all low-profile tyres are wider than others. Whatever the explanation, it is undeniable that larger rims make for much worse "fuel" efficiency.

	Quote:	lemming
	So nobody is worried that, although this is not a now problem, it might be one in 2/3 years?

Yes, I am worried about this, especially since a visit to a Supercharger takes at least 20 minutes, sometimes 50 or more, and that time increases when every bay is full. It's not like queuing for a 5-minute top-up with petrol.

I've already experienced a short wait at the Supercharger near Zürich, and that's at a time when EVs still haven't really taken off. Until rapid chargers become as ubiquitous as petrol stations, we are undeniably facing a huge "energy crisis" for Tesla owners, unless Tesla sales decrease rapidly or they massively extend their Supercharger network.

[rainer_d]

We will see.

They are expanding the supercharger network.
Though, with other high-speed charging players entering the field in Europe, they will likely concentrate on certain hotspots in California first.

Once VW begins selling thousands of ID.3s in Q2, we might really see how an "Energy Crisis" looks like.
All things considered, I'd say one is still in a way better position with a Model 3.

[Fermano]

Hi Model 3 LR AWD NON-Performance owners, what's the power (kW) indicated in your Fahrzeugausweis, field 76? How about the gross weight (33)? Also, is it normal for the Strassenverkehrsamt to charge 2x50Fr for the Ausweis? They give you one :-)

[AbFab]

	Quote:	Fermano
	Hi Model 3 LR AWD NON-Performance owners, what's the power (kW) indicated in your Fahrzeugausweis, field 76? How about the gross weight (33)? Also, is it normal for the Strassenverkehrsamt to charge 2x50Fr for the Ausweis? They give you one :-)

Field 76: 340 kW ** This should be 250kW or 340PS
The import document was wrong. My Tesla entered Switzerland through Courgenay in Jura and they entered the PS figure instead of kW!

I pointed this out at my local traffic office (Hinwil) and the guy shrugged and said he couldn't change it, the paperwork would have to go back to the importer. I was picking the car up the next day, so I left it.

Field 33: 2305 kg

I was charged 1 x CHF100 for the grey card because I kept the plates from my previous car, but changed the owner from my partner to me. For 2020, I have not received a bill for the traffic office, my partner's Golf has been charged for 2020.

EVs are free of annual charge in Canton Zurich...

[Fermano]

Has there been a "sleeper" Tesla Model 3 on offer in Switzerland? Just like a LR AWD, except the inverter is top bin and the Performance mode is enabled in software. Ie. it still has regular wheels, no spoiler, no lowered body. Asking it as the Strassenverkehrsamt put 361kW in field 76, I guess, based on the customs forms. I asked and was told that such thing has not been available in Switzerland online or via the phone.

[AbFab]

	Quote:	Fermano
	Has there been a "sleeper" Tesla Model 3 on offer in Switzerland? Just like a LR AWD, except the inverter is top bin and the Performance mode is enabled in software. Ie. it still has regular wheels, no spoiler, no lowered body. Asking it as the Strassenverkehrsamt put 361kW in field 76, I guess, based on the customs forms. I asked and was told that such thing has not been available in Switzerland online or via the phone.

It's a US thing for now - "Stealth model 3".

There is endless debate whether the Dual Motor Long Range can be given the performance of the Performance simply by software upgrade. I daresay Tesla could charge handsomely for this if/when available...

[Fermano]

Those of you who ordered a car with two sets of wheels (Winter/Summer), delivered in the Winter, did they hand it to you with the Winter ones on? The Summer set is then stored at some place, I hear maybe Euromaster in Dietikon, or do you take it with the car when leaving?

[AbFab]

	Quote:	Fermano
	Those of you who ordered a car with two sets of wheels (Winter/Summer), delivered in the Winter, did they hand it to you with the Winter ones on? The Summer set is then stored at some place, I hear maybe Euromaster in Dietikon, or do you take it with the car when leaving?

Mine came with winter wheels and the summer ones were with Euromaster. You make an online booking with Euromaster to swop wheels at a Euromaster near you. You can keep the wheels yourself and change them yourself, but check online about the potential jacking problems with the battery pack.

Euromaster charge for their service of course!

	Quote:	AbFab
	Mine came with winter wheels and the summer ones were with Euromaster. You make an online booking with Euromaster to swop wheels at a Euromaster near you. You can keep the wheels yourself and change them yourself, but check online about the potential jacking problems with the battery pack. Euromaster charge for their service of course!

This - Euromaster at Hardbrucke have mine and don't stop pestering me to change them over every half year.

I've just left winter ones on for now, in an effort to get them to stop!

[GenevaSculler]

	Quote:	AbFab
	You can keep the wheels yourself and change them yourself, but check online about the potential jacking problems with the battery pack.

I changed mine over myself (Model S if it makes any difference). It was just the same as any other car I've done - as usual you just have to make sure you get the jack in the right place.

Bizarrely, when I ordered my car and asked for it to be delivered (in November) with winter tyres, I was told that it wasn't possible and all cars were delivered with summer tyres! Didn't seem reasonable to me, but that was the story. The problem may have been that my car (Model X) has 22" rims and it could well be that Tesla does not recommend winter tyres for such large wheels, but even a second set of wheels (I would have taken 20") with winter tyres was apparently not on.

Maybe it's not all bad. Tesla's price for a set of 20" wheels in black, complete with tyres, is CHF 5,000, which is ridiculous, so I'll buy after-market instead. Does anyone know what pitfalls I should avoid in the process? Any recommendations for good brands of rims (in black), preferably with the option to replace the centre cap with Tesla caps -- something along the following lines?

[Tom1234]

These are specifically designed for an electric car:




The blurb says suitable for Scaletrix (whatever that means..)

	Quote:	Tom1234
	These are specifically designed for an electric car: The blurb says suitable for Scaletrix (whatever that means..)

No centre cap. I'd have to draw the "T" on with a Sharpie.

I bet they'd corner like they're on rails, though.

	Quote:
	Bizarrely, when I ordered my car and asked for it to be delivered (in November) with winter tyres, I was told that it wasn't possible and all cars were delivered with summer tyres! Didn't seem reasonable to me, but that was the story. The problem may have been that my car (Model X) has 22" rims and it could well be that Tesla does not recommend winter tyres for such large wheels, but even a second set of wheels (I would have taken 20") with winter tyres was apparently not on. Maybe it's not all bad. Tesla's price for a set of 20" wheels in black, complete with tyres, is CHF 5,000, which is ridiculous, so I'll buy after-market instead. Does anyone know what pitfalls I should avoid in the process? Any recommendations for good brands of rims (in black), preferably with the option to replace the centre cap with Tesla caps -- something along the following lines?

No idea with non-Tesla rims, but I think you need to be careful if you choose a rim size that isn't one of the official Tesla "supported" sizes (i.e. ones you can buy on the website, so 19 or 21?) as somebody needs to fiddle about in the admin menu (easy to get into yourself, quick Google) to set the correct wheel size - I could imagine this might need to be done somewhat officially as you could otherwise be under (or over!) clocking the mileage.

Right, agreed; the rims would have to be Swiss-homologated, too. 20" is a standard size for the Model X. I'm looking at 20" rather than 21" purely for the range gain (or rather, reduced range loss).

[bigblue2]

did you sell any of your other cars to get this, you know what I mean

	Quote:	bigblue2
	did you sell any of your other cars to get this, you know what I mean

Not yet... two are for sale though, do you want one? Or a sizeable commission for finding a buyer?

[bigblue2]

	Quote:
	Not yet... two are for sale though, do you want one? Or a sizeable commission for finding a buyer?

all my money in tied up in droids at the moment

[Fermano]

Mystery of 361kW Leistung in the Ausweis is solved: reportedly, Swiss customs agents simply add up the performance of the front and rear wheel motors.

It might be a change of policy. Wondering if their concern is that at least in theory, an OTA update may enable the stealth-type higher performance. Which they might think has a nonzero chance as Tesla enabled rear seat heating on standard models, enabled additional performance (acceleration) and battery capacity on occasion. This paragraph is pure speculation, maybe different Swiss customs agents just do it differently. I'd escalate though if I lived in a canton that taxes cars based on performance (kW/hp) as the 361kW is not something that the car will deliver (standard AWD model).

[temiatwork]

Hello fellow TM3 owners, does anyone knows a dealer here in CH where I can order a turbine type rim 18" ? - thanks.