Tesla Fan Boy Thread

[iustin]

	Quote:	DriveLab
	Today I also ordered winter socks They are a legal replacement for snowchains. I highly recommend that, even with 4WD.

Of course. Snow chains (or socks) are critical for braking, not for acceleration, so 4WD vs. 2WD is irrelevant there.

Sorry to nitpick, but I think this is an important point that many people misunderstand.

Tesla has announced the Model S Plaid+, already available in the configurator.
It's probably the ultimate car on the market.

How would 0 - 100 in less than 2 seconds feel?

	Quote:	k_and_e
	Tesla has announced the Model S Plaid+, already available in the configurator. It's probably the ultimate car on the market. How would 0 - 100 in less than 2 seconds feel?

Also the Model X Plaid. Not as quick but ridiculously nippy for an SUV.

Can't say I love the steering yoke. Not yet, anyway. And I'm surprised that there were virtually no changes to the exterior of either vehicle (S and X).

By the way, I edited the thread title. It's no longer about just the Model 3, but about all Tesla models (as there wasn't really a thread for any other Tesla model). It's not possible to split the thread without a few weeks' work so let's see if all Teslas can cohabit here peacefully.

	Quote:
	Can't say I love the steering yoke.

they have a plan b for that
https://www.thedrive.com/tech/38976/...steering-wheel

[rainer_d]

	Quote:	k_and_e
	Tesla has announced the Model S Plaid+, already available in the configurator. It's probably the ultimate car on the market. How would 0 - 100 in less than 2 seconds feel?

According to somebody who drove it: "Absurd".

It's probably not for the faint of heart (or stomach...).

[AbFab]

	Quote:	k_and_e
	Tesla has announced the Model S Plaid+, already available in the configurator. It's probably the ultimate car on the market. How would 0 - 100 in less than 2 seconds feel?

I have the power upgrade on my 3 Dual Motor giving a 0 to 100km time just sub 4 seconds. Women scream, I nearly faint and hang on to the steering wheel while policemen hand in the badges.

I think that sub 2 seconds may result in brain injury. Though it will blow away all-comers...

	Quote:	k_and_e
	they have a plan b for that https://www.thedrive.com/tech/38976/...steering-wheel

Looks like that hasn't come to fruition, and all new Models S cars will have the yoke. From your link:

	Quote:
	Update: Thursday January 28, 2021, 9:36 a.m. ET Tesla has pulled the more traditional steering wheel from its website. Despite the snippet of code remaining on the website, changing the URL now results in a "Page Not Found" error. It's not clear why Tesla may have done this. Perhaps the automaker prefers that the public see its more radical design, or maybe it really will launch the refreshed Model S and Model X with its yoke-style controls. Either way, Tesla appears to be doubling-down on the obscure changes. On Twitter, Musk claims that the vehicle will no longer have turn signal stalks and states that the vehicle will guess the drive direction based on its surroundings and driver input.

As for the "guessing" that Elon tweeted about, it seems that's real, too. Drivers will only be able to select gears (including reverse) from the touchscreen (although voice commands here could be cool!). The car will work out which gear it thinks you need... This might be great. Or it could be awful. Time will tell.

The lack of stalks for turn indicators and windscreen wipers is nothing new; Ferrari did away with those years ago, and Tesla is now introducing effectively an updated version of that steering wheel:



As usual, Ryan Shaw has a great summary of most of the key new features of the Model S (and Model X, for the most part):

How does this work?

[iustin]

One is removing the stalks and replacing them with actual buttons on the wheel - by "actual", I mean ones which are physical buttons and which one can activate with their eyes closed, and anothe is the touch-sensitive version.

We'll see how it goes, but I'm not a fan of anything I can't operate "eyes-closed", so to say.

[rainer_d]

I thought these kind of steering-wheels were completely illegal in Europe?

[Talk to you later]

He gives a good summary-

How does this work?

	Quote:	rainer_d
	I thought these kind of steering-wheels were completely illegal in Europe?

Which kind? Ferrari's? Obviously not...

	Quote:	iustin
	One is removing the stalks and replacing them with actual buttons on the wheel - by "actual", I mean ones which are physical buttons and which one can activate with their eyes closed, and anothe is the touch-sensitive version. We'll see how it goes, but I'm not a fan of anything I can't operate "eyes-closed", so to say.

Fully agree. I think the touch-actuated buttons won't last long; there'll be another refresh, at least in that department, pretty soon.

[robBob]

	Quote:	iustin
	of course. Snow chains (or socks) are critical for braking, and for acceleration, so 4wd vs. 2wd is irrelevant there. Sorry to nitpick, but i think this is an important point that many people misunderstand.

fify

[Axa]

	Quote:	AbFab
	I have the power upgrade on my 3 Dual Motor giving a 0 to 100km time just sub 4 seconds. Women scream, I nearly faint and hang on to the steering wheel while policemen hand in the badges. I think that sub 2 seconds may result in brain injury. Though it will blow away all-comers...

Cars, even fast ones, don't pull much above the normal Earth gravity. A really good car doing 0-100 km/h in 3.12 seconds is the same as jumping from a 10m trampoline into a pool, you experience 1G of acceleration.

The new Tesla roadster assuming accelerates from 0-100 in 2 seconds, it's only 1.56G. Now consider a funny rollercoaster makes you experience 5G in acceleration So, cars can accelerate much faster before injuring us. https://rollercoaster.fandom.com/wik...Roller_Coaster

Yes, Tesla still has some way to go to reach the real ludicrous speed.

How does this work?

Edit: plaid reference on 2:15
https://youtu.be/mk7VWcuVOf0?t=135

[kahoumono]

Hi all,

Seriously considering hopping on the band wagon when the model Y is released. Aside from 22yard's model X range issue not many people have discussed range. Range anxiety is my primary concern even after watching numerous range tests. I drove a mobility model S a few months ago and it consumed almost 40 percent for the 140km round trip drive, up hills and cold weather. What have your experiences been with the model 3(with or without heat pump)? Are 360km day trips skiing feasible without a top up in between? Thanks!

[AbFab]

	Quote:	kahoumono
	Hi all, Seriously considering hopping on the band wagon when the model Y is released. Aside from 22yard's model X range issue not many people have discussed range. Range anxiety is my primary concern even after watching numerous range tests. I drove a mobility model S a few months ago and it consumed almost 40 percent for the 140km round trip drive, up hills and cold weather. What have your experiences been with the model 3(with or without heat pump)? Are 360km day trips skiing feasible without a top up in between? Thanks!

I‘ve driven to the UK (and back) in my Model 3 in 2019. A journey I have made dozens of time by various ICE cars. By Tesla the journey was no longer or different. Some French services had Tesla Superchargers, some Superchargers are just off the Autoroutes, same in Germany.

Take a look at better route planner app and try out a few virtual journeys. You‘ll see there‘s more to it than driving down to 10% and charging up to 100%. Theres a skill to minimise time and maximise range.

I‘m not sure what ski resorts in Switzerland there are with 360km return journeys. St Moritz is 250km return which I‘ve done one one charge...

[Hausamsee]

	Quote:	kahoumono
	Hi all, Seriously considering hopping on the band wagon when the model Y is released. Aside from 22yard's model X range issue not many people have discussed range. Range anxiety is my primary concern even after watching numerous range tests. I drove a mobility model S a few months ago and it consumed almost 40 percent for the 140km round trip drive, up hills and cold weather. What have your experiences been with the model 3(with or without heat pump)? Are 360km day trips skiing feasible without a top up in between? Thanks!

I have just bought a Model 3 LR 2021 version (with heat pump) and it’s range is 580kms. Apart from the superb road holding in snow and rain the range is something else compared to my old Model X, virtually double as the X was 3 years old. I’ve also noticed that it supercharges much faster too, about 20 mins from 20% to 80%.
It’s a good time to get one too, Tesla have knocked 4,000 off the new price. This was going to be my car until the Y is out, I want the 7-seater, but I will not be that happy the day I have to let it go.

[kahoumono]

Thanks for the info. Tesla Bjorn only manages around 400km @90kph and 300 @120kph range tests in winter conditions. So if the charge rate is that quick at the super chargers it'll be pretty tolerable to get a 10 min top up. I think I m sold. Will still wait for official release for build quality before ordering though. Thanks again.