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Old 03.06.2019, 11:21
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I was under the impression that reservations like these on the M3 were not transferrable.
OK fair enough, then I'll just ask for a refund before TSLA goes bankrupt and there's nothing to claim back.

I'm pretty heartbroken, though, somehow.
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Old 03.06.2019, 11:24
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OK fair enough, then I'll just ask for a refund before TSLA goes bankrupt and there's nothing to claim back.

I'm pretty heartbroken, though, somehow.
You could ask if you can hold the reservation until the base model (~35,000 chf) becomes available?
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Old 03.06.2019, 12:27
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2) Tesla goes gloriously bust and the likes of Apple or Google snap them up. Under new hands shares climb.
Why would any company who buys up a company that went bust keep the old shares. Just buy the company and have the curator pay out to the shareholders if any money is left after paying of debts/preferred creditors first and start over with new shares and 100% ownership. Also in such case I hope for the owner of a Tesla car that a curator sells to a party that respects the current warranty.

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Old 03.06.2019, 13:16
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You could ask if you can hold the reservation until the base model (~35,000 chf) becomes available?
I can hold it indefinitely, but why would I?

It already showed that prefinancing the company gave us, early reservation holders, actually zero benefits, so if the base model (which I believe will be so capped that noone would want to buy it) comes into play, I can still order it and have it delivered in 1-2 months due to massive overstocking on the Tesla end.
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Old 03.06.2019, 14:03
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I can hold it indefinitely, but why would I?

It already showed that prefinancing the company gave us, early reservation holders, actually zero benefits, so if the base model (which I believe will be so capped that noone would want to buy it) comes into play, I can still order it and have it delivered in 1-2 months due to massive overstocking on the Tesla end.
Depending on when you did it, it presumably gave you earlier access to a car to than otherwise?
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Old 04.06.2019, 08:44
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Depending on when you did it, it presumably gave you earlier access to a car to than otherwise?
nope, that's the most bitter thing of all. I'm handled as everyone else.
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Old 04.06.2019, 08:48
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nope, that's the most bitter thing of all. I'm handled as everyone else.
At what point did you make the reservation? I can't imagine you weren't offered a car in order of when you made the reservation?

Edit: Sorry, saw you reserved in April 2016
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Old 04.06.2019, 09:21
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Why would any company who buys up a company that went bust keep the old shares. Just buy the company and have the curator pay out to the shareholders if any money is left after paying of debts/preferred creditors first and start over with new shares and 100% ownership. Also in such case I hope for the owner of a Tesla car that a curator sells to a party that respects the current warranty.
I believe there is a legal requirement to do so. A company takes over another one by buying their shares...
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Old 04.06.2019, 10:22
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At what point did you make the reservation? I can't imagine you weren't offered a car in order of when you made the reservation?

Edit: Sorry, saw you reserved in April 2016
we had about 1 month of leverage from anyone from the street in the end (last October-ish, deliveries for early 2019).
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Old 04.06.2019, 10:36
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I believe there is a legal requirement to do so. A company takes over another one by buying their shares...
Depends. You can buy the company (i.e. the shares, in which case you take on all the obligations) or you can buy the business (assets, brands, etc.). In the latter case the obligations attached to the company may remain with the company.

So a buyer might acquire Tesla Inc. Or it might buy the Tesla factory, the car designs, the patents, the right to use the brand name etc.
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I believe there is a legal requirement to do so. A company takes over another one by buying their shares...
If a company goes bust the shares become defunct.

A curator has the task of finding ways to pay of the debts. Shareholders selling their shares does not put money in the pocket of the preferred creditors, selling the company assets however does, after this normal shareholders can divide any remaining money after the preferred creditors have been paid.

The company that buys the assets can just produce new stocks for their new company. Would make no sense if they would respect the old shares, those are worthless.
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Re: Tesla Model 3 Fan Boy Thread

I saw in Germany a Tesla 3 with a " 4 " pollution sticker on his car, was the owner pulling a leg?
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Old 04.06.2019, 15:01
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I saw in Germany a Tesla 3 with a " 4 " pollution sticker on his car, was the owner pulling a leg?
What does this mean?
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Old 04.06.2019, 23:13
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I saw in Germany a Tesla 3 with a " 4 " pollution sticker on his car, was the owner pulling a leg?
Nope -- see below.

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What does this mean?
All cars in Germany are categorized according to their emission of fine particles. EURO 2 (red sticker) is currently the worst level (greatest polluter), EURO 4 (green) is the best. EVs fall into EURO 4 because there's no sticker for anything higher than EURO 4.
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Re: Tesla Model 3 Fan Boy Thread

My Madzda 3, petrol,15 years old and 200'000 km on the clock, has also a sticker " 4 "
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