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John_H 24.02.2019 19:29

Old cars - service them or sell 'em cheap or trade them in..
 
We have a couple of old cars that we're going to rid of and replace with a brand new one..

Both are due their annual service about now, one is probably due expertise in a few months and the other probably still has a year.

I can't decide what's best to do, get them serviced, get expertise, sell privately, attempt to trade in or just sell them as they stand..

Volvo xc90 2.5t 2006 155k kms runs fine but has various scuffs and scrapes.
Mini cooper s clubman, 2008, 55k kms .. Runs fine and is in excellent condition.

We're going to buy a Mini ALL4 electric whatever its called so i thought i might trade in the mini at least.

What do the car experts think?

fatmanfilms 24.02.2019 19:34

Re: Old cars - service them or sell 'em cheap or trade them in..
 
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Originally Posted by John_H (Post 3045221)
We have a couple of old cars that we're going to rid of and replace with a brand new one..

Both are due their annual service about now, one is probably due expertise in a few months and the other probably still has a year.

I can't decide what's best to do, get them serviced, get expertise, sell privately, attempt to trade in or just sell them as they stand..

Volvo xc90 2.5t 2006 155k kms runs fine but has various scuffs and scrapes.
Mini cooper s clubman, 2008, 55k kms .. Runs fine and is in excellent condition.

We're going to buy a Mini ALL4 electric whatever its called so i thought i might trade in the mini at least.

What do the car experts think?

No point in getting a service, however jet wash the engine & you can probably get a new MFK for less than 100 CHF.

John_H 24.02.2019 19:44

Re: Old cars - service them or sell 'em cheap or trade them in..
 
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Originally Posted by fatmanfilms (Post 3045223)
No point in getting a service, however jet wash the engine & you can probably get a new MFK for less than 100 CHF.

One can actually just jet wash it? With the self service car wash device? Both are actually pretty clean, I just changed a headlight bulb in the mini today and topped up the screen wash in the volvo last week.


The volvo should have antique value, it has a proper phone installed, with a curly wire.

st2lemans 24.02.2019 20:41

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1) Antique is 30+ years, with no mods

2) MFK does not expire. My personal record is 14 years, and several 10+ (motorcycles), wife's car is looking at 9 years at the moment. :eek:

Tom

Patxi 24.02.2019 21:30

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Originally Posted by st2lemans (Post 3045238)

2) MFK does not expire. My personal record is 14 years, and several 10+ (motorcycles), wife's car is looking at 9 years at the moment.


Could you please clarify what this means? Thanks.

Belgianmum 24.02.2019 21:32

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Originally Posted by John_H (Post 3045227)
One can actually just jet wash it? With the self service car wash device?

You’ll just need to find one that allows engine washing, a lot of them specifically state that it is not allowed.

fatmanfilms 24.02.2019 21:57

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Originally Posted by Belgianmum (Post 3045248)
You’ll just need to find one that allows engine washing, a lot of them specifically state that it is not allowed.

I did it many times in CH, but it's easy enough to go over the border to Germany or France.
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Originally Posted by John_H (Post 3045227)
One can actually just jet wash it? With the self service car wash device? Both are actually pretty clean, I just changed a headlight bulb in the mini today and topped up the screen wash in the volvo last week.


The volvo should have antique value, it has a proper phone installed, with a curly wire.

Yes I always did it with cars with up to 300.000 km, do the wheel arches brakes etc so it looks reasonably clean, if you have a small oil leak do a final wash on the way to the test :D

robBob 24.02.2019 22:40

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Old cars are great. They make you a better driver. Especially Subarus.
:cool:

st2lemans 25.02.2019 07:26

Re: Old cars - service them or sell 'em cheap or trade them in..
 
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Originally Posted by Patxi (Post 3045247)
Could you please clarify what this means? Thanks.

It means exactly what it says. ;)

Tom

Patxi 25.02.2019 08:35

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Originally Posted by st2lemans (Post 3045289)
It means exactly what it says. ;)

Tom

So it doesn't mean anything? Can you explain why if something doesn't expire then how would it be a record to make it to 14 years?

Our cars get called in every 2 years for a test. Can I just ignore these guys as the MFK doesn't expire?

I'm obviously missing something so please explain it to me. Thanks.

John_H 25.02.2019 08:43

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Originally Posted by Patxi (Post 3045298)
So it doesn't mean anything? Can you explain why if something doesn't expire then how would it be a record to make it to 14 years?

Our cars get called in every 2 years for a test. Can I just ignore these guys as the MFK doesn't expire?

I'm obviously missing something so please explain it to me. Thanks.

It's more like it does not have a fixed time frame..
You're MFK is due when they send you a letter telling you its due. That could be 2 years, it could be 14 years.

"It doesn't expire" is a true statement though, your grey card shows the last time it was done, that's it, it's done until they tell you otherwise.

st2lemans 25.02.2019 08:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Patxi (Post 3045298)
So it doesn't mean anything? Can you explain why if something doesn't expire then how would it be a record to make it to 14 years?

Our cars get called in every 2 years for a test. Can I just ignore these guys as the MFK doesn't expire?

I'm obviously missing something so please explain it to me. Thanks.

The longest it took them to call me in for a MFK was 14 years (bike first registered in 2000, 1st MFK in 2014), I have several others that have gone 10 years between being called in, and my wife's 2010 Fiesta called in.

If they don't call you in to do it, you don't have to. :rolleyes:

Tom

ipoddle 25.02.2019 08:56

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As usual, I think the thread got derailed

Use a free site (tutti.ch ?) and try to sell them 'as is' at a price you're happy with. If you don't get any takers.. have them serviced and try again. If still no takers... ask for an MFK and try again.

Both cars have 'fans'.. I think you'll be ok.

John_H 25.02.2019 09:47

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Originally Posted by ipoddle (Post 3045304)
As usual, I think the thread got derailed

Use a free site (tutti.ch ?) and try to sell them 'as is' at a price you're happy with. If you don't get any takers.. have them serviced and try again. If still no takers... ask for an MFK and try again.

Both cars have 'fans'.. I think you'll be ok.

Yeah kinda what I was hoping to do.. Pretty sure spending 1000chf on a service would not add same to the sale price.



Maybe I'll try them on here first, just for a laugh :)

fatmanfilms 25.02.2019 10:09

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Originally Posted by John_H (Post 3045312)
Yeah kinda what I was hoping to do.. Pretty sure spending 1000chf on a service would not add same to the sale price.



Maybe I'll try them on here first, just for a laugh :)

It won't add anything to the sale price, only an MFK will add value by making a quick sale.

k_and_e 25.02.2019 10:11

Re: Old cars - service them or sell 'em cheap or trade them in..
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by John_H (Post 3045221)
We have a couple of old cars that we're going to rid of and replace with a brand new one..

Both are due their annual service about now, one is probably due expertise in a few months and the other probably still has a year.

I can't decide what's best to do, get them serviced, get expertise, sell privately, attempt to trade in or just sell them as they stand..

Volvo xc90 2.5t 2006 155k kms runs fine but has various scuffs and scrapes.
Mini cooper s clubman, 2008, 55k kms .. Runs fine and is in excellent condition.

We're going to buy a Mini ALL4 electric whatever its called so i thought i might trade in the mini at least.

What do the car experts think?

I would sell them both "ab platz" and see what you can get.
The electric Mini is likely to be a wanted car so your negotiation position for a trade in would be bad.

mediasapiens 25.02.2019 22:40

Re: Old cars - service them or sell 'em cheap or trade them in..
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by John_H (Post 3045300)
It's more like it does not have a fixed time frame..
You're MFK is due when they send you a letter telling you its due. That could be 2 years, it could be 14 years.

"It doesn't expire" is a true statement though, your grey card shows the last time it was done, that's it, it's done until they tell you otherwise.

That is a hopeful news for me, as my old Toyota required 2000+ CHF of useless service to pass inspection (nothing was broken). Swiss car-inspection wizeman did not even test exhaust fumes for compliance. But they sure tested my optional fog lights real good.
Do they even do emission test in Switzerland ? I know they don't do it in Belgium.

Today only 25.02.2019 23:02

Re: Old cars - service them or sell 'em cheap or trade them in..
 
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Originally Posted by mediasapiens (Post 3045519)
That is a hopeful news for me, as my old Toyota required 2000+ CHF of useless service to pass inspection (nothing was broken). Swiss car-inspection wizeman did not even test exhaust fumes for compliance. But they sure tested my optional fog lights real good.
Do they even do emission test in Switzerland ? I know they don't do it in Belgium.




You absolutely sure about that .........?

st2lemans 26.02.2019 07:13

Re: Old cars - service them or sell 'em cheap or trade them in..
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mediasapiens (Post 3045519)
Swiss car-inspection wizeman did not even test exhaust fumes for compliance.

Not their job. :rolleyes:

But they do check that your emissions-inspection papers are in order. ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by mediasapiens (Post 3045519)
they sure tested my optional fog lights real good.

If you don't want them to check them, just remove them for the inspection. Same thing with blinkers on motorcycles.

Tom


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