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The real cost of running a car in 2019 ?

Hi everyone,


after 11 years car-less (or car-free)... I really have no idea what it costs and how to get set up with a car...but it's on my list for 2020!.


Alternatively, leasing short-term for a few months (especially over summer) to do some substantial road tripping... eg. we borrowed a friend's car last summer and drove Zurich - Prague over a week, and returned in one day...



So...what is the real cost of running a car in Switzerland - not exactly, because I know it will vary, but how does it all work ?
- registration
- insurance ? What sorts ? what to look for to make it 'comprehensive'.

- petrol/electric/diesel ?



Oh, and I should add, part of the motivation is our two teenagers will be soon wanting to learn to drive, which is a life-skill, even if they don't actually need a car for their daily life... and we certainly don't plan to buy them one!


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Re: The real cost of running a car in 2019 ?

Oh, and I should follow up with - what makes/models of car are cheapest to maintain and repair ?
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Old 11.03.2019, 22:45
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Re: The real cost of running a car in 2019 ?

FYI!


https://www.adac.de/infotestrat/auto...?prevPageNFB=1
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Re: The real cost of running a car in 2019 ?

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Oh, and I should follow up with - what makes/models of car are cheapest to maintain and repair ?
If you want cheap go for a Dacia. Cheap as peas to buy and to run. Basic but does the job just as well as any other car.

Otherwise japanese cars (Nissan, Toyota, Honda, etc) are cheap to maintain because they rarely have anything breaking down (as long as you service regularly)

It's really a how long a piece of string kind of question. One would generally need to get into specifics to get a better idea, how old a car are you happy to get (presume you want to buy second hand), how much space do you need - do you want a small city goer, a family car, a 4x4, a big saloon, etc.

Amongst the cost for running a car you need to consider:
- parking - do you need to rent a parking space or garage, how much it costs. A parking space in residential areas can cost between 600 to 2-3000 chf/year
- servicing - think 1-1.5k/year to be safe
- insurance - between 500 and 1k/year depending on model, may be more for extra options
- tax - somewhere around 500/year
- petrol depending on how much you drive
- purchase cost

Do you have a budget for buying? Do you have cash or want to get a loan?
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Old 11.03.2019, 23:19
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Re: The real cost of running a car in 2019 ?

Thanks... lots to consider... and for the link...



How do people choose between petrol/diesel/hybrid/electric ?
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Re: The real cost of running a car in 2019 ?

And I realised I'm also pretty serious about safety ratings...



www.euroncap.com


Seems like a hatchback with a fairly large viewing window out the back and a reasonable height roof will be my husband's criteria...
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Re: The real cost of running a car in 2019 ?

Look into hybrid options, very cheap in terms of costs and not too expensive compared to normal alternatives. If you're looking for a smaller car look at Toyota Yaris or for bigger the C-HR also comes in hybrid but looks like a tank.


Purchase/leasing cost

Parking costs
Car Insurance
Road Tax/Vignette
Petrol
Roadside Assistance(optional)
Winter/Summer tyres
Occasional cleaning in/out


If you have the cash don't lease, buy outright used.
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Re: The real cost of running a car in 2019 ?

Always remember ... also applies in 2019

Small car = low running costs
Big car = high running costs

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Thanks... lots to consider... and for the link...



How do people choose between petrol/diesel/hybrid/electric ?
Petrol: Cheapest for short- to medium drives on the countryside (few stops and go's)

Diesel: Best for long distance drives (and cheap at the moment due to the Diesel scandal)

Hybrid: Best for stop&go in the city with occassional longer distances

Electric: Cheapest if you can use free electricity at work to charge it Otherwise more expensive in buying but less expensive in running compared to similar expensive cars, great acceleration (but keeping distance in mind)
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Thanks... lots to consider... and for the link...



How do people choose between petrol/diesel/hybrid/electric ?
Just get a reasonably priced petrol car 5 or so years old that's reliable and cheap to run... like a Golf 1.4 or similar class.
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Re: The real cost of running a car in 2019 ?

TCS makes a usb stick with expense data for most cars, in CH/CHF:


https://www.tcs.ch/de/testberichte-r...eterkosten.php
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Old 12.03.2019, 09:25
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Just get a reasonably priced petrol car 5 or so years old that's reliable and cheap to run... like a Golf 1.4 or similar class.

The same motor is also used for their CNG cars. Cost about 1K more but get it back from the CNG supplier as a promotion (Förderbeitrag) https://www.energie360.ch/de/private...-aktionspreis/


The advantage cheaper to run. https://www.erdgas.ch/mobilitaet/sparpotenzial/



more info:

https://www.nzz.ch/mobilitaet/auto-m...nik-1.18590781


https://www.nzz.ch/mobilitaet/auto-m...ebe-ld.1459649


Unfortunately no info in English
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Seems like a hatchback with a fairly large viewing window out the back and a reasonable height roof will be my husband's criteria...

So he wants a Barracuda!


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Just get a reasonably priced petrol car 5 or so years old that's reliable and cheap to run... like a Golf 1.4 or similar class.

Advantgae is that you can do research into common problems, which a 1.4 VW from 5 years ago has lots... I would avoid all gasoline direct injected and turbocharged engines.

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Re: The real cost of running a car in 2019 ?

I can offer advice as I have just gone through this procedure. I have leased a 1yr old Audi Q2, details as follows:

* Servicing - free for 10yrs or 100k kms. (labour only, have to pay for fluids)
* Warranty - 10yrs or 100k kms
* Deposit - 2000 francs
* Monthly instalments - 450
* Insurance - 1200 a year
* Road Tax - 550 a year
* Motorway Vignette - 40 a year

This is based on a 4yr contract. with a buy option of 18k at the end of the 4yrs. The Q2 was 40k to buy outright so works out ok for me. List price new was 62k!!
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Old 12.03.2019, 10:05
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Advantgae is that you can do research into common problems, which a 1.4 VW from 5 years ago has lots... I would avoid all gasoline indirect injected and turbocharged engines.

Mine has no issues. But its not yet 5! Actually it'll be 5 in June!!!

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If you want cheap go for a Dacia. Cheap as peas to buy and to run. Basic but does the job just as well as any other car.

Otherwise japanese cars (Nissan, Toyota, Honda, etc) are cheap to maintain because they rarely have anything breaking down (as long as you service regularly)
That simply isn't true any more. Almost all modern cars are pretty reliable and many share common components and are designed together. Don't limit your choice to Japanese because something was true in the 1990s (or whenever).
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Re: The real cost of running a car in 2019 ?

Look at my spreadsheet https://goo.gl/FVJzZw

It's very very close to my real costs I'm having.

To use this spreadsheet, save a copy into your account, or export it so you can edit it on Excel.

Change the variables (yellow cells) accordingly
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That simply isn't true any more. Almost all modern cars are pretty reliable and many share common components and are designed together. Don't limit your choice to Japanese because something was true in the 1990s (or whenever).
My personal exp over 20+ years as well as quick google shows that it is still Japanese:
Here are the 20 most reliable vehicles of the decade, including one that is practically flawless since 2010 (No. 7).
Lexus RX.
Honda Accord. ...
Acura TSX. ...
Toyota Corolla. ...
Honda CR-V. ...
Toyota Sequoia. ...
Toyota Venza. ...
Nissan Leaf. The new 2018 Nissan LEAF should continue to be as reliable as its predecessor.| Nissan. ...

Definitely stay away from anything German Italian or French made, (except may be Audi of the last 4-5 years I have heard they are reliable).
I would buy 2-3 years old car instead of new. And never ever buy exported car from Germany (fake mileage almost guaranteed).
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I can offer advice as I have just gone through this procedure. I have leased a 1yr old Audi Q2, details as follows:

* Servicing - free for 10yrs or 100k kms. (labour only, have to pay for fluids)
* Warranty - 10yrs or 100k kms
* Deposit - 2000 francs
* Monthly instalments - 450
* Insurance - 1200 a year
* Road Tax - 550 a year
* Motorway Vignette - 40 a year

This is based on a 4yr contract. with a buy option of 18k at the end of the 4yrs. The Q2 was 40k to buy outright so works out ok for me. List price new was 62k!!

Limited to how many KM per year ??


Pssssst. The service isn't free, you or somebody else pay's up front for the service.


With a leasing you have to have a full insurance (casco) for the entire duration of the lease and it's far more expensive than if you buy the car without a lease.


The list price is irrelevant, they all the manufacturers are falling over backwards to sell cars at present and soon they'll add in a triple axel to sweeten the deal
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