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BMW X3 v BMW x 5 in Switzerland

Hello to all BMW enthusiasts in Switzerland

I am a BMW X1 owner who used to drive a 2013 BMW X3 2.0 litre manual diesel and also a 2008 BMW X3 2.0 litre manual diesel.

In every respect, they were both great, reliable cars.

As our family will be expanding, I am thinking of getting second-hand second generation BMW X5 3.0 litre as second car. I am also thinking of getting an X3 since that is what we know. I understand most post-2006 X5's are all automatic.

I wanted to ask:
1. Are there any BMW forums I can connect with through English Speaking Forum?

2. Anyone owned a BMW x5 automatic? Was it a good car? Particularly in snow?

3. Any mechanics out there can confirm that the diesel engine would last longer than the manual one?

4. Anyone experienced whether the BMW X5 automatic handles well in snowy conditions? I mean will it get you up and down steep, narrow, windy, deep snow conditions as well as my X3 2.0 litre manuals have done?

5. Is the 3.0 litre X5 engine the longest lasting and most economical or is better to go for a larger engine with the automatics?

Any advice, particularly about how the BMW X5 compares with a manual car or specifically an X3 manual, would be most welcomed everyone.

Many thanks

RASZ
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Old 01.06.2019, 20:02
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Re: BMW X3 v BMW x 5 in Switzerland

The only reasons that would make the difference for me are:
1. the seats. You can get the X5 with comfort seats but the X3 not.
2. you can can the X5 as a 7 seater
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Re: BMW X3 v BMW x 5 in Switzerland

Off topic point as most people think 4x4 are better coming down a snowy mountain road. Going up a hill would be much easier with a 4x4. But remember that 4x4 will not help you to stop the vehicle coming down a slippery slope any better than any ordinary vehicle. Due to the increased weight (momentum) it may be even harder to stop the 4x4 than an ordinary car (I know by experience Ford ranger 4x4 vs Fwd VW golf).

With good winter tyres and careful driving you will be able to navigate any legal road in Switzerland without any worry. IMHO Manual shift would be slightly better than automatic in slippery conditions.

3.0 diesel is more than enough power for an X5 automatic, but once again its your personal preference.
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Re: BMW X3 v BMW x 5 in Switzerland

I own an X5, although a newer model. Here are a couple of points:


It's not an off roader. For that a better bet is a Land/Range Rover (Although, I wouldn't touch a 2nd hand version of those!) I'm guessing it will be equally capable as your X3


All the diesels have the identical 3 litre engine. (Power differences are achieved by various turbocharging methods and tuning) The 30d has about 250 HP, which I think should be sufficient. (The 40d has just over 300hp)


My X5 (now almost 4 years old) has been super reliable. The only issue in that time has been a faulty door handle (comfort access, or something) that was replaced under guarantee. Having said that, my previous car was a 5 series, which at 10 years started having numerous, expensive issues, mostly due to age/wear and tear.


The second gen X5 does, however, have a very good reputation and I think they still look great.
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Re: BMW X3 v BMW x 5 in Switzerland

BMW petrol engines last a very long time, I have driven several past 300,000 km & they die not need to be topped up with oil between services. No engine repairs ever needed just oil & filter changes. I was driving about 50,000 a year, in the mountains most weeks always automatics & usually rear wheel drive.
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Re: BMW X3 v BMW x 5 in Switzerland

I have a 2015 BMW X3 - Diesel 20d. For CH, just want I need for my family. (one kid) and good enough. no issues has been working good, no visits to the garage save for maintainance. The X5 is just to big for me, I did look at them, especially in the small garages in CH. With the X3, its small enough for me to zip into a spot (albeit still big if I look at space for me to open my door sometimes). But still agile enough for me. Boot space is big enough for me. Comfortable on long trips. Its not an off road vehicle at all, but I didn't want that. My tick boxes was big boot, good for mountain passes, 4WD, i wanted diesel so yeah..i' suck, dependable, and agile enough not to be a pain to park.
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Re: BMW X3 v BMW x 5 in Switzerland

I'd look at petrol engines, especially considering recent hysteria around diesel. 3.5i is the best, in my view, in current BMW X5 engines range (reliable, powerful, relatively simple). I had 2.0 and 3.0 diesel before, both worked perfectly but I wouldn't switch back.
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Re: BMW X3 v BMW x 5 in Switzerland

Go for the one with the most coffee cup holders.
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