Go Back   English Forum Switzerland > Help & tips > Transportation/driving  
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #21  
Old 06.06.2019, 09:14
FCBarca's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: La Côte
Posts: 965
Groaned at 87 Times in 41 Posts
Thanked 885 Times in 430 Posts
FCBarca has a reputation beyond reputeFCBarca has a reputation beyond reputeFCBarca has a reputation beyond reputeFCBarca has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Third speeding ticket in as many months

Not one speeding ticket in the US after most of my adult life driving there, in nearly 9 years en Suisse I have been flashed 5 or 6 times (Never more than 60 CHF) and I am pretty prudent on the road. All of the cases have either been in construction zones where speeds were lowered temporarily or zones going from 120 to 100


Take home lesson for me? Be more alert, particularly with respect to other traffic to signal approaching speed zones or construction areas. Else, it is what it is. I prefer this to the pandemonium you encounter in other countries tbh



Reply With Quote
The following 3 users would like to thank FCBarca for this useful post:
  #22  
Old 06.06.2019, 09:25
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: CH
Posts: 441
Groaned at 18 Times in 12 Posts
Thanked 420 Times in 219 Posts
ch2013 has made some interesting contributions
Re: Third speeding ticket in as many months

Quote:
View Post
The cantons, and everywhere else on the planet.

Tom
Netherlands
https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2...-limit-helmond

Sweden
https://www.wired.com/2010/12/swedis...-to-slow-down/

New Zealand
https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-news-...where-32251249
Reply With Quote
The following 3 users would like to thank ch2013 for this useful post:
  #23  
Old 06.06.2019, 09:35
BasP72's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Adliswil (close to Zurich)
Posts: 1,684
Groaned at 67 Times in 34 Posts
Thanked 1,384 Times in 680 Posts
BasP72 has a reputation beyond reputeBasP72 has a reputation beyond reputeBasP72 has a reputation beyond reputeBasP72 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Third speeding ticket in as many months

Quote:
View Post
I have driven for many years in the UK covering 20000+ miles each year, and never had a ticket. However, after getting a car here in February I have now been snapped for a third time.
Just checking, but you are aware het in CH limits are posted in km/h, not mph ?
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank BasP72 for this useful post:
  #24  
Old 06.06.2019, 09:56
st2lemans's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Lugano
Posts: 27,103
Groaned at 1,708 Times in 1,304 Posts
Thanked 31,456 Times in 15,040 Posts
st2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Third speeding ticket in as many months

Quote:
View Post
Not one speeding ticket in the US after most of my adult life driving there, in nearly 9 years en Suisse I have been flashed 5 or 6 times
I would normally get more speeding tickets in the US in a single year, than 10 here.

In 33 years here, I've only had four or so at CHF 40, and only two above that (CHF 400 or so). I also got one in Italy (EUR 130 or so), and my BIL got me one in Austria (I was in Corsica at the time, but it was only EUR 30, so I paid it)

Tom
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 06.06.2019, 10:29
Atheri's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Geneva
Posts: 37
Groaned at 4 Times in 2 Posts
Thanked 31 Times in 13 Posts
Atheri has no particular reputation at present
Re: Third speeding ticket in as many months

How is usage of Waze in Switzerland?

Wouldn't it help to be more aware what is the limit on the road you're on, where to expect the cameras, where to expect the bush ninjas and so on?

Always used it when driving in Europe and never had a single (speeding) ticket, also helps to avoid traffic jams.

Though using it requirez other drivers also to use it (to report bush ninjas, traffic jams, new hidden speed cameras etc)
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 06.06.2019, 10:44
Mark75's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: by the lake (either one)
Posts: 2,510
Groaned at 45 Times in 39 Posts
Thanked 3,136 Times in 1,363 Posts
Mark75 has a reputation beyond reputeMark75 has a reputation beyond reputeMark75 has a reputation beyond reputeMark75 has a reputation beyond reputeMark75 has a reputation beyond reputeMark75 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Third speeding ticket in as many months

Quote:
View Post
How is usage of Waze in Switzerland?

Wouldn't it help to be more aware what is the limit on the road you're on, where to expect the cameras, where to expect the bush ninjas and so on?

Always used it when driving in Europe and never had a single (speeding) ticket, also helps to avoid traffic jams.

Though using it requirez other drivers also to use it (to report bush ninjas, traffic jams, new hidden speed cameras etc)
Any app that warns you about speed cameras is illegal in Switzerland as it would cut into the Cantons' business model.
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 06.06.2019, 10:45
eyebeebe's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Pfäffikon SZ
Posts: 1,604
Groaned at 16 Times in 15 Posts
Thanked 1,714 Times in 805 Posts
eyebeebe has a reputation beyond reputeeyebeebe has a reputation beyond reputeeyebeebe has a reputation beyond reputeeyebeebe has a reputation beyond reputeeyebeebe has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Third speeding ticket in as many months

Just be happy that you can keep getting them forever without it impacting your ability to drive.

In the UK you’d be one ticket away from a ban and your insurance would be about to go through the roof!
Reply With Quote
The following 5 users would like to thank eyebeebe for this useful post:
  #28  
Old 06.06.2019, 10:55
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Basel
Posts: 1,293
Groaned at 23 Times in 19 Posts
Thanked 759 Times in 453 Posts
Landers is considered knowledgeableLanders is considered knowledgeableLanders is considered knowledgeable
Re: Third speeding ticket in as many months

My sat-nav says a stern "Beware!" whenever I go over the limit and it is very useful. Also I learned that I had to drive the Swiss way i.e. 5kmh under the limit instead of 5kmp over, in the city.
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 06.06.2019, 11:11
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Ostschweiz
Posts: 7,635
Groaned at 253 Times in 216 Posts
Thanked 9,196 Times in 4,826 Posts
Urs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond reputeUrs Max has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Third speeding ticket in as many months

Quote:
View Post
I used to think I was a competent driver, but this has really shook that belief. Perhaps I will just return to public transport.
I believe two main tasks when learning to drive is training the brain to filter out the irrelevant stuff, and building routines and automatisms (for instance you don't think about the details of switching gears with a manual, you just do). At least some of those probably don't work anymore around here - different road signs, driving on the right and all that entails, different building styles so you can no longer tell a school from a McDonalds (jk), perhaps converting km to miles, etc.

Until you've rebuilt those routines and automatisms you'll probably focus on the things in proximity, which hinders planning ahead (you're braking late instead of taking the foot off the gas early, for example). Your driving is likely to suffer.

Perhaps taking a theory course would help? It doesn't cost much, and at least you wouldn't need to think about the meaning of the signs any more. A couple driving lessons with a professional instructor may be useful as well.
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank Urs Max for this useful post:
  #30  
Old 06.06.2019, 11:51
aSwissInTheUS's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Zurich area
Posts: 10,490
Groaned at 81 Times in 72 Posts
Thanked 15,932 Times in 7,055 Posts
aSwissInTheUS has a reputation beyond reputeaSwissInTheUS has a reputation beyond reputeaSwissInTheUS has a reputation beyond reputeaSwissInTheUS has a reputation beyond reputeaSwissInTheUS has a reputation beyond reputeaSwissInTheUS has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Third speeding ticket in as many months

Quote:
View Post
At least this way we don't get overly taxed to fund the fuzz with our hard earned Chuffs?
The money goes in the general community coffer not just to the plod. So it also funds the parks, the streets, the school, hospitals, public transport and many things more.

PS: I also have a yearly traffic ticket budget. So far I am CHF 60 over
Reply With Quote
The following 4 users would like to thank aSwissInTheUS for this useful post:
  #31  
Old 06.06.2019, 12:57
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Zurich
Posts: 11,723
Groaned at 677 Times in 494 Posts
Thanked 15,694 Times in 6,151 Posts
Chuff has a reputation beyond reputeChuff has a reputation beyond reputeChuff has a reputation beyond reputeChuff has a reputation beyond reputeChuff has a reputation beyond reputeChuff has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Third speeding ticket in as many months

Having a car with traffic sign recognition (probably 98% or so accurate, only getting confused occasionally) and setting audible alarms when you beyond the speed limit has been extremely useful for me in avoiding speeding tickets so far.
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 06.06.2019, 14:24
Today only's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Europe
Posts: 7,882
Groaned at 871 Times in 593 Posts
Thanked 9,830 Times in 4,668 Posts
Today only has a reputation beyond reputeToday only has a reputation beyond reputeToday only has a reputation beyond reputeToday only has a reputation beyond reputeToday only has a reputation beyond reputeToday only has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Third speeding ticket in as many months

Quote:
View Post
The money goes in the general community coffer not just to the plod. So it also funds the parks, the streets, the school, hospitals, public transport and many things more.

PS: I also have a yearly traffic ticket budget. So far I am CHF 60 over

a sort of Abonnement General like CFF ?
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 06.06.2019, 14:48
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Zurich
Posts: 83
Groaned at 1 Time in 1 Post
Thanked 31 Times in 18 Posts
hof86 has earned some respecthof86 has earned some respect
Re: Third speeding ticket in as many months

Quote:
View Post
Yes Zurich is disgusting with its speed cameras. They made 250m profit from it last year. Always on the stupidest places to collect money and not for public safety.

I don't dislike speed cameras as a prevention and punishment measure but the extent to which Zurich has them is simply appalling.

Out of curiosity, did they really make that much money with speed cameras?
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 06.06.2019, 15:06
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: CH
Posts: 441
Groaned at 18 Times in 12 Posts
Thanked 420 Times in 219 Posts
ch2013 has made some interesting contributions
Re: Third speeding ticket in as many months

Quote:
View Post
Out of curiosity, did they really make that much money with speed cameras?
This one made 8 mio in 6 months

https://www.20min.ch/ro/news/suisse/...heure-28115137
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank ch2013 for this useful post:
  #35  
Old 06.06.2019, 15:09
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Leimbach, Zürich
Posts: 5,852
Groaned at 332 Times in 265 Posts
Thanked 6,581 Times in 3,303 Posts
EdwinNL has a reputation beyond reputeEdwinNL has a reputation beyond reputeEdwinNL has a reputation beyond reputeEdwinNL has a reputation beyond reputeEdwinNL has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Third speeding ticket in as many months

Quote:
View Post
Out of curiosity, did they really make that much money with speed cameras?
Nah, must be less.

Entire German part of Switzerland calculates 285'673'200 Franken for 2019, this is including parking fines, red light, speeding, broken lights etc...

And lets not call it all profit, there is a lot of expenses made to actually get this money in.
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank EdwinNL for this useful post:
  #36  
Old 06.06.2019, 15:12
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Leimbach, Zürich
Posts: 5,852
Groaned at 332 Times in 265 Posts
Thanked 6,581 Times in 3,303 Posts
EdwinNL has a reputation beyond reputeEdwinNL has a reputation beyond reputeEdwinNL has a reputation beyond reputeEdwinNL has a reputation beyond reputeEdwinNL has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Third speeding ticket in as many months

Quote:
View Post
Which is stupid since it is very clearly visible.
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 06.06.2019, 15:14
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: CH
Posts: 441
Groaned at 18 Times in 12 Posts
Thanked 420 Times in 219 Posts
ch2013 has made some interesting contributions
Re: Third speeding ticket in as many months

Quote:
View Post
Nah, must be less.

Entire German part of Switzerland calculates 285'673'200 Franken for 2019, this is including parking fines, red light, speeding, broken lights etc...

And lets not call it all profit, there is a lot of expenses made to actually get this money in.
All the cameras in VD are connected directly to a central hub that processes the images and creates, prints and mails the fines to the victims. There was a documentary about it on RTS a while back. Now it's setup I guess there a not a lot of expenses (paper, envelopes, stamps...)
Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old 06.06.2019, 15:18
roegner's Avatar
Moderately Dutch
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Zurich
Posts: 8,838
Groaned at 305 Times in 252 Posts
Thanked 9,673 Times in 4,881 Posts
roegner has a reputation beyond reputeroegner has a reputation beyond reputeroegner has a reputation beyond reputeroegner has a reputation beyond reputeroegner has a reputation beyond reputeroegner has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Third speeding ticket in as many months

Quote:
View Post
Which is stupid since it is very clearly visible.

Maybe now that the hedge has been cut down. They hide them behind road signs so you only see them at the last moment when it is too late (the one at Urdorf Nord exit road sign just has been moved, the one at the entrance of the Islisberg tunnel, also well hidden, must have brought in loads of money)
Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old 06.06.2019, 15:19
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Leimbach, Zürich
Posts: 5,852
Groaned at 332 Times in 265 Posts
Thanked 6,581 Times in 3,303 Posts
EdwinNL has a reputation beyond reputeEdwinNL has a reputation beyond reputeEdwinNL has a reputation beyond reputeEdwinNL has a reputation beyond reputeEdwinNL has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Third speeding ticket in as many months

Quote:
View Post
All the cameras in VD are connected directly to a central hub that processes the images and creates, prints and mails the fines to the victims. There was a documentary about it on RTS a while back. Now it's setup I guess there a not a lot of expenses (paper, envelopes, stamps...)
So they developed and maintain a system for this, and what does it cost to buy, place and maintain the camera's, or have people going around doing mobile checks. Parking fines for example I see a horde of people roaming the streets daily, must be expensive events they make a profit.

Anyway, I don't care for the actual real numbers, just saying that every rappen that comes in from fines is not 100% profit.
Reply With Quote
  #40  
Old 06.06.2019, 15:23
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Leimbach, Zürich
Posts: 5,852
Groaned at 332 Times in 265 Posts
Thanked 6,581 Times in 3,303 Posts
EdwinNL has a reputation beyond reputeEdwinNL has a reputation beyond reputeEdwinNL has a reputation beyond reputeEdwinNL has a reputation beyond reputeEdwinNL has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Third speeding ticket in as many months

Quote:
View Post
Maybe now that the hedge has been cut down. They hide them behind road signs so you only see them at the last moment when it is too late (the one at Urdorf Nord exit road sign just has been moved, the one at the entrance of the Islisberg tunnel, also well hidden, must have brought in loads of money)
It is not like Sweden where they have signs telling you that a steady speed check is coming up. But this one is pointed towards the bus you also see on the picture. So it does not take you by surprise if you come from behind the bushes
Reply With Quote
Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Ever had a speeding ticket in Italy? walterguariento Transportation/driving 31 21.07.2015 13:18
how many trips in one ticket? ihtxam Transportation/driving 11 26.11.2014 09:28
Speeding ticket for over-speeding by 1 kph !!!!!!!! Irene N Complaints corner 173 06.11.2013 14:47
My first speeding ticket in Switzerland SemAms General off-topic 3 09.11.2009 10:03
Speeding ticket in Germany tiago_vilas Transportation/driving 52 23.06.2009 11:34


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 13:02.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0