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GB resident speeding in CH?

I am currently on holiday in Switzerland - the 3rd time I have visited this beautiful country and the first time I have travelled here by car. I am a UK resident.

Earlier in the week I found myself being tailgated by a local driver, I felt as if he was pushing me along and willing me to go faster. Rather than pulling over and letting him by I stupidly just carried on traveling at the same speed until we entered a 60kmh limit and I saw him brake heavily in my rear view mirror and to get some distance from him I carried on (yes, yes I know), not knowing that around the corner a fixed speed camera lay in wait. I was probably doing about 96kmh in the 60kmh zone but didn't see a flash (bright sunny day) and I am hoping that perhaps I braked in time but I don't hold out much hope. The camera was on the opposite side of the road facing us.

In hindsight I should have just let him by and put my pride to one side and now I am terrified of the potential fine to come.

Unfortunately up to now I was completely unaware of the severity of speeding fines and the nature of the positioning and lack of warnings about them in CH, and I do not know if there may be more fines to come, if any at all.

To get to the point, I know it is my own fault and I know I will probably be getting a 4-figure fine but can they ban me/revoke my licence in the UK? I have not been stopped by any police.
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Re: GB resident speeding in CH?

Great tip: If locals brake on for you unknown roads, brake along. The locals know where the checks are.
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Re: GB resident speeding in CH?

if it's any comfort at the moment, you may be in luck. If the camera was on the other side of the road, there's a small chance that it was set up to catch drivers on that side of the road only. However, it's unusual to see cameras that capture the rear number plate. Most of them are on the same side of the road and face against the direction of traffic to capture the front number plate and, welcome bonus, a nice shot of the startled driver to aid identification of the culprit (in the case of severe speeding offences). Good news for motorcyclists but not for car drivers.

Anyway, please keep us posted. It could take some months for a fine/summons (if any) to reach you in the UK (or not, in which case you're in the clear).
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To get to the point, I know it is my own fault and I know I will probably be getting a 4-figure fine but can they ban me/revoke my licence in the UK? I have not been stopped by any police.
Highly unlikely they revoke your UK licence, but I would expect a huge fine.

Like the others have said you may be lucky if the camera was on the opposite side of the road
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Old 19.06.2019, 06:13
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Re: GB resident speeding in CH?

Even if sunny, it's unlikely you would have missed the flash. I suspect it was for the other lane. The tailgating is so irritating, but next time, either let them pass, or give them a taste of your window washer!
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Re: GB resident speeding in CH?

Thank you everyone... I will lie in wait! Can they still summon me to court? Will I have to make a special trip to CH? 🤣
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Re: GB resident speeding in CH?

There isn't always a flash.

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Thank you everyone... I will lie in wait! Can they still summon me to court? Will I have to make a special trip to CH? 🤣
No. Even for Swiss residents and serious speeding, a court appearance is not usual.
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There isn't always a flash.

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Well, I always endeavour to quickly open and close my raincoat at the camera.
I'm not always successful.
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Well, I always endeavour to quickly open and close my raincoat at the camera.
I'm not always successful.
Are they fitted with zoom lenses?
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Are they fitted with zoom lenses?
Fish eye would be more apt !!
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I've some cream for that.
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Thank you everyone... I will lie in wait! Can they still summon me to court? Will I have to make a special trip to CH? ��
They will send you letters and bills. Expect the following:
-a letter from the prosecutor/police asking who was the driver
-a letter from the prosecutor asking about your income and expenses
-a letter announcing a driving ban (3 months+) which only applies to Switzerland.
-a bill for the driving ban (a few hundred francs)
-a letter from the prosecutor/court about the sentence.
-a bill for the fine plus court fees (some hundred up to thousand francs)
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Re: GB resident speeding in CH?

Are they allowed to ask income & expenses of non Swiss Resident?



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They will send you letters and bills. Expect the following:
-a letter from the prosecutor/police asking who was the driver
-a letter from the prosecutor asking about your income and expenses
-a letter announcing a driving ban (3 months+) which only applies to Switzerland.
-a bill for the driving ban (a few hundred francs)
-a letter from the prosecutor/court about the sentence.
-a bill for the fine plus court fees (some hundred up to thousand francs)
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Are they allowed to ask income & expenses of non Swiss Resident?
Asking is allowed in most of the cases and seldom forbidden.

Better questions:
Do you have to/can they force you to answer? Most likely not.

What happens if you do not answer? They assume and estimate a net income and will base the sentence on that.

What does that mean? It might be higher or could be lower than your actual income. If it is higher than your actual income you get a higher fine then if you had disclosed your income and expenses. Otherwise you win.
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Are they allowed to ask income & expenses of non Swiss Resident?
Ask yes,
compel an answer no

Maybe in lack of answer they make an estimate?
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Re: GB resident speeding in CH?

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Or use Waze which unfailingly tells me "police ahead" even if it's just a camera.
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Old 19.06.2019, 18:08
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Or use Waze which unfailingly tells me "police ahead" even if it's just a camera.
Forbidden in CH though, if caught will get you a fine.
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Forbidden in CH though, if caught will get you a fine.
If your phone is password protected can they make you unlock it, or demand the password?
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Re: GB resident speeding in CH?

If you were on UK plates you may be ok, my MRS got flashed a year or so ago on UK plates and she never received a bill.
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