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Old 24.06.2019, 15:54
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another view on "Bicycle etiquette"-overtaking

Hi all
this is just a thread somehow related to https://www.englishforum.ch/transpor...etiquette.html, but a bit different due to the story's implications on my health.


So, the other i was going home as usual by bike(not e-bike). At a particular time i have to climb a hill and i am a bit slower. Usually i keep a safety distance of 15-20cm between me and the sidewalk/trottoir and i overtake the slower bicyclists on the left, if i can.


For reasons i cant explain, while climbing the hill, i noticed that out of nowhere a guy insisted to squeeze in between me and the sidewalk in order to overtake me on the right instead on the left.


This situation put me in a very annoying situation because that portion of road is under construction, is very busy with buses and cars and the bike lane is pretty narrow.
To make the situation even worse, at the same time a bus was overtaking us. So i didnt have to much space.

Anyhow, we were cycling shoulder to shoulder. I decided to brake, but something happened and i lost my balance and i fall down. No major injuries, but i was happy at least that no car was coming otherwise things would have been very bad for me.


So, two questions remains in my mind after this experience:
1. despite the fact that i am cycling for almost 12 years here in Switzerland , i didnt know that one could overtake another cyclist on the right. Is it allowed this manoeuvre?
2. what would you do in such case?


BTW, i have contacted the police but they said that in the absence of any evidence, is just an accident that i am responsible for. A video camera on the helmet would have helped? I dont know.


Thank you for any good thoughts,
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Old 24.06.2019, 16:00
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So, two questions remains in my mind after this experience:
1. despite the fact that i am cycling for almost 12 years here in Switzerland , i didnt know that one could overtake another cyclist on the right. Is it allowed this manoeuvre?
2. what would you do in such case?
No idea what the laws or rule is in such a situation but IF it's a legal maneuver, I'd be almost certain that the same rule applies as applies to motor vehicles, i.e. overtake IF it's safe to do so (i.e. not on a steep hill, when the road turns into rubble because of road works AND there's bus in the chaos - how many hazards did this guy need to see before attempting to undertake you?).

If someone started undertaking me in that situation, I think my reaction would be to slow down and/or stop but you were on a steep hill which is a pisser to get going again. Oh, and let rip with a tirade in ugly Anglo-Saxon.

What a knobhead!

I'm glad you weren't seriously hurt.
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Old 24.06.2019, 16:18
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Re: another view on "Bicycle etiquette"-overtaking

You must have left quite some space because otherwise it's impossible to overtake on the right. Maybe the other bicycle thought that was safer than overtaking on the left.

Also, if you need to brake on a bicycle while climbing, you must be going really fast. How could the other guy overtake at all?
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Old 24.06.2019, 16:25
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Re: another view on "Bicycle etiquette"-overtaking

I have the slight feeling that I'm an awful person because if I was in the same position I'd have pushed the other guy.

I'd expect the road rules to apply to bikes, as in, taking over only from the left.
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If he has enough on 20cm to overtake me he can do so, if he starts pushing me towards the road he'll end up flat on the pavement
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1. despite the fact that i am cycling for almost 12 years here in Switzerland , i didnt know that one could overtake another cyclist on the right. Is it allowed this manoeuvre?
Keep to the right, overtake on the left. With that said, maybe the other guy thought you were hugging the "left lane"...
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1. despite the fact that i am cycling for almost 12 years here in Switzerland , i didnt know that one could overtake another cyclist on the right. Is it allowed this manoeuvre?
2. what would you do in such case?
don't leave enough space for someone to undertake.

if being undertaken, don't lose balance and fall off.
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Also, if you need to brake on a bicycle while climbing, you must be going really fast. How could the other guy overtake at all?
E-bike?
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Keep to the right, overtake on the left. With that said, maybe the other guy thought you were hugging the "left lane"...
or turning left
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Re: another view on "Bicycle etiquette"-overtaking

1. No
2. Ride more to the right. It's literally impossible to undertake unless you ride in the midst of the lane the cars use
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