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Susie-Q 28.06.2019 13:16

SBB refuses to cool down trains in heat wave
 
Good afternoon,

Hope you are all staying cool in this heat.

Just wanted to post this article about SBBís refusal to cool down their trains on the hottest days:

https://m.20min.ch/schweiz/news/stor...ehlen-22598677

I was on a train with a registered inside temp of 42.5 C. I have asthma and this is dangerous, not to mention the countless other people who could be severely affected.

In the article, they state that they have received few complaints, which I find to be entirely unlikely. If you would like to join me in complaint, hereís the link:

https://www.sbb.ch/en/meta/contacts/...criticism.html

Your help is appreciated. :)

Sandgrounder 28.06.2019 13:23

Re: SBB refuses to cool down trains in heat wave
 
I read it that the SBB won't cool down trains any further, not refuse to cool down trains. :confused:

A few of the old-style trains are blisteringly hot but the majority are the modern ones which are pretty pleasant.

Susie-Q 28.06.2019 13:25

Re: SBB refuses to cool down trains in heat wave
 
No, I was on a modern train yesterday that was over 40 C...the train attendant stated they were instructed to turn it off as they reached the quota allowed.

I was also stuck in the Bern mess (took 6 hours to get home). The train was sweltering, but when they announced the problem, it was suddenly cool again. The trains can indeed be pleasant if they turn the air on and keep it on.

Sandgrounder 28.06.2019 13:27

Re: SBB refuses to cool down trains in heat wave
 
What did he mean by "quota" in this case?

Susie-Q 28.06.2019 13:30

Re: SBB refuses to cool down trains in heat wave
 
I’m guessing the amount of energy used? They keep caps on that...have you commuted lately?

Today only 28.06.2019 13:30

Re: SBB refuses to cool down trains in heat wave
 
You seem to be always complaining about something, if it's really that terrible here, why don't you just move on and find paradise elsewhere ?

Sandgrounder 28.06.2019 13:33

Re: SBB refuses to cool down trains in heat wave
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Susie-Q (Post 3079420)
Iím guessing the amount of energy used? They keep caps on that...have you commuted lately?

Every single day. Always with aircon, lights and a working lav... :D

Susie-Q 28.06.2019 13:33

Re: SBB refuses to cool down trains in heat wave
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Today only (Post 3079421)
You seem to be always complaining about something, if it's really that terrible here, why don't you just move on and find paradise elsewhere ?

You always seem to be trolling on the Englishforum, what’s your problem? I guess you got tired of attacking the guy who was worried about his wife? Nobody will talk to you in real life? Don’t have anything better to do? My guess is you don’t have a job either so don’t have to deal with a sweltering commute.

EdwinNL 28.06.2019 13:33

Re: SBB refuses to cool down trains in heat wave
 
I'm happy they don't cool at 25, would sweat like hell the instant I would get out. And I dislike heavy airconditioned rooms since I prefer to not have a cold in summer.

Susie-Q 28.06.2019 13:34

Re: SBB refuses to cool down trains in heat wave
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandgrounder (Post 3079422)
Every single day. Always with aircon, lights and a working lav... :D

Iím jealous ;) Lights and lav are usually in good shape for me. Mornings are still good with aircon, itís the way home thatís the problem.

Sandgrounder 28.06.2019 13:36

Re: SBB refuses to cool down trains in heat wave
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Susie-Q (Post 3079425)
Iím jealous ;) Lights and lav are usually in good shape for me. Mornings are still good with aircon, itís the way home thatís the problem.

If you sit or stand near-ish the door, there's usually a blower there coming out of the ceiling which might make it marginally cooler than, say, in the middle of the carriage.

DUTCH 28.06.2019 13:56

Re: SBB refuses to cool down trains in heat wave
 
Don't ever take the London Tube in summer, then.

Caleb 28.06.2019 13:57

Re: SBB refuses to cool down trains in heat wave
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Susie-Q (Post 3079423)
You always seem to be trolling on the Englishforum, whatís your problem? I guess you got tired of attacking the guy who was worried about his wife? Nobody will talk to you in real life? Donít have anything better to do? My guess is you donít have a job either so donít have to deal with a sweltering commute.

I found his answer a bit surprising and agressive, but there's no need to lose all civility and start hitting back.

Let's keep it clean, and focus on the climate in trains, a topic I will care about A LOT soon, as I will start a 60+ min commute come August 5th. :msntongue:

runningdeer 28.06.2019 14:03

Re: SBB refuses to cool down trains in heat wave
 
All I know is that in the last few years there have been some major SBB/CFF total outages impacting a good part of Switzerland, and they seem to have coincided with previous very high temp. days. Wierd coincidence or ..., I think the grid cannot handle all the traffic and extra electric intake needed for cooling on the blistering days.

st2lemans 28.06.2019 14:04

Re: SBB refuses to cool down trains in heat wave
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Susie-Q (Post 3079423)
My guess is you donít have a job either so donít have to deal with a sweltering commute.

Actually I've always walked to work, both in the US and here. :eek:

Tom

EdwinNL 28.06.2019 14:10

Re: SBB refuses to cool down trains in heat wave
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DUTCH (Post 3079436)
Don't ever take the London Tube in summer, then.

In Buenos Aires Metro in Summer I learned that it is possible to sweat from the back of your fingers within seconds. No cooling, they only vented with air that was sucked in from streetlevel (basically just an extra heater), and a busride in Brasil with no cooling for hours in the full sun with 44 Celsius gave me the knowledge that alcohol is not demanded to lose the ability to walk a straight line.

yacek 28.06.2019 14:19

Re: SBB refuses to cool down trains in heat wave
 
SBB has a first world problem: their new train car windows don't open anymore because of climate control and now when they reduce (stop?) the AC it is worse inside than outside (temperature plus increased humidity and CO2).

Mark75 28.06.2019 14:31

Re: SBB refuses to cool down trains in heat wave
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandgrounder (Post 3079413)
A few of the old-style trains are blisteringly hot

Right. But with very few exceptions (non-refurbished 1st generation Zurich S-Bahn trains) you can open the windows which solves much of the problem.

Chuff 28.06.2019 14:51

Re: SBB refuses to cool down trains in heat wave
 
Come on guys, whether you think Susie-Q is a moaner or not, a 40c train is downright dangerous whichever way you look at it, assuming you have an iota of common sense. Especially the elderly and the very young will be at risk.

At the very worst for young and healthy people 40c is damn uncomfortable and I would not want to be riding on a train like that.

SBB should have a maximum allowable temperature on board their trains, and if they need extra cooling then they should provide it.

st2lemans 28.06.2019 14:52

Re: SBB refuses to cool down trains in heat wave
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuff (Post 3079457)
SBB should have a maximum allowable temperature on board their trains, and if they need extra cooling then they should provide it.

And if that means cancelling trains due to the power overload, sobeit! :eek:

Tom


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