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Re: Importing a car from US to CH

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lol could you elaborate?

You are becoming tiresome, you have more than enough advice about your rather normal car, the consensus is don't bring it, but you keep on and on and on.


Maybe you should change your user name to "Duracell"


Nobody can make the decision for you, the car is really nothing exceptional, the risk of having to pay a significant amount to get it approved according to Swiss standards is lot for such a vehicle, the saving you may make and that's still very much debatable is minimal.

SELL this car and buy another over here, one headache less and judging from this post alone, you're going to create a lot of headaches


You will get absolutely raped by the Audi dealers here who prepare your car for the testing by the authorities
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Old 04.07.2019, 20:46
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TO is right, my friend imported a "classic" Jag XJS from CA which he paid $9k for, plus CHF 3k shipping plus around CHF 15k to get it on the road in CH.

So all told around CHF 30k to get an XJS (which was not in that good condition) and the whole process took him around 3 months.

Bearing that in mind, take a look here

Now ask yourself do you think it was worth the time, hassle and cost?
I am sorry but this is not at all comparable to my case. I will not pay for the shipping (employer does) and it is a car that will not need heavy modifications to be compatible.
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Old 04.07.2019, 20:49
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You are becoming tiresome, you have more than enough advice about your rather normal car, the consensus is don't bring it, but you keep on and on and on.


Maybe you should change your user name to "Duracell"


Nobody can make the decision for you, the car is really nothing exceptional, the risk of having to pay a significant amount to get it approved according to Swiss standards is lot for such a vehicle, the saving you may make and that's still very much debatable is minimal.

SELL this car and buy another over here, one headache less and judging from this post alone, you're going to create a lot of headaches


You will get absolutely raped by the Audi dealers here who prepare your car for the testing by the authorities
Thank you for the feedback but I like to hear factual comments and then make a decision. Folks tend to just make umbrella statements like it is not worth the hassle but what constitutes a hassle changes from a person to another. I am talking numbers rather than discussing emotional statements like you will hate the Swiss, the dealer will rip you off, etc etc..

I appreciate your feedback very much but I will ultimately make my decision in terms of numbers (sorry a nerd here).

Again thank you for your feedback.
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Old 04.07.2019, 20:55
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I will ultimately make my decision in terms of numbers (sorry a nerd here).
Do you know what the hourly rate is for an Audi Garage? (I don't, but I'd guess it's north of 200CHF/hour.)

EDIT: From your questions I take it that you won't be prepping the car for the MFK yourself, so that is what you will be paying to have an Audi shop do it for you.
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Do you know what the hourly rate is for an Audi Garage? (I don't, but I'd guess it's north of 200CHF/hour.)

EDIT: From your questions I take it that you won't be prepping the car for the MFK yourself, so that is what you will be paying to have an Audi shop do it for you.
I might take it to the MFK myself (perhaps with a friend or my ex who actually are not embarrassingly ignorant about cars like yours truly), but I am also asking a professional importer to give me a quote for doing the whole thing. If his quote is reasonable I might consider that.

I have been researching cars that are on sale in CH per advice I have received here and there are pretty much no cars that have park assist packages in 2017.

I am tempted to go for A1 or Mini Cooper in which case I will sell the car before coming to CH. But again as soon as you add leather seats and so on they become quite pricy. It is amazing how few options the CH cars have.
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Old 04.07.2019, 22:43
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Re: Importing a car from US to CH

As I previously stated, 2-3k for a motorcycle with no mods, more for a car, based on personal experience with importing more than one many years apart.

How thick are you?

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I might take it to the MFK myself
No, you won't.

MFK for imported foreign crap is NOT the same as normal MFK, BTDT, and unless you are fluent in local laws and lingo, you will have no chance, and I say that as someone who normally passes MFK several times a year

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Re: Importing a car from US to CH

In Europe the mentality pertaining to cars is different, that is just the way it is.
And a 30k+ car is a luxury item as a lot of people are driving 20k cars with not many options on them. Leather seats are seen as still more luxury by European standards.
Actually outside Switzerland a lot of people are driving 10k cars.
Engine size is also part of this mentality. Bigger engine -> more taxes to pay each year, more gas to pay each month. -> economics

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I might take it to the MFK myself (perhaps with a friend or my ex who actually are not embarrassingly ignorant about cars like yours truly), but I am also asking a professional importer to give me a quote for doing the whole thing. If his quote is reasonable I might consider that.

I have been researching cars that are on sale in CH per advice I have received here and there are pretty much no cars that have park assist packages in 2017.

I am tempted to go for A1 or Mini Cooper in which case I will sell the car before coming to CH. But again as soon as you add leather seats and so on they become quite pricy. It is amazing how few options the CH cars have.
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Old 05.07.2019, 08:18
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And a 30k+ car is a luxury item
No, it's not.

Anything under 100k is a normal middle class vehicle.

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Old 05.07.2019, 09:04
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In Europe the mentality pertaining to cars is different, that is just the way it is.
And a 30k+ car is a luxury item as a lot of people are driving 20k cars with not many options on them. Leather seats are seen as still more luxury by European standards.
Actually outside Switzerland a lot of people are driving 10k cars.
Engine size is also part of this mentality. Bigger engine -> more taxes to pay each year, more gas to pay each month. -> economics

A Chf 30k car is a mid range VW Golf...........hardly luxury !!


Same price as a second hand Q3....which is not luxury either
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I might take it to the MFK myself (perhaps with a friend or my ex who actually are not embarrassingly ignorant about cars like yours truly), but I am also asking a professional importer to give me a quote for doing the whole thing. If his quote is reasonable I might consider that.

I have been researching cars that are on sale in CH per advice I have received here and there are pretty much no cars that have park assist packages in 2017.

I am tempted to go for A1 or Mini Cooper in which case I will sell the car before coming to CH. But again as soon as you add leather seats and so on they become quite pricy. It is amazing how few options the CH cars have.
The base spec of cars in Europe is higher than US cars
See point 5

There can be other differences. Even nonsense articles suggest that you can't compare directly.
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I am tempted to go for A1 or Mini Cooper in which case I will sell the car before coming to CH. But again as soon as you add leather seats and so on they become quite pricy. It is amazing how few options the CH cars have.

Right, my last post on the subject

Europe IS NOT america!! american cars come with very few options as standard, which is why they are cheap cheap cheap, sorry to bang on about mustangs its just I have experience with them having bought a US import a few years ago, US mustangs come with literally NOTHING and you can spec hundreds of options, but they are dirt cheap (as you know). Europe mustangs come with EVERYTHING as standard - so you have literally no options to chose apart from engine size and gearbox - but they are way more expensive then the USA car (hence people import them), so a lot of things you think are extras are actually standard kit here.


You yanks seem to put up with totally crap cars (as long as they are cheap) , europeans wouldn't stand for that crap.

The fact you didn't know about sales tax here suggests you REALLY need to do some research before arriving!! you know the power is different here to, right? and we don't use USD or euro's??

Its also a bit worrying you have no clue what engine your car has!!

So bottom line, yes, your car is more expensive to buy here, but come with 3 years of no bills and 10 years of no servicing costs. Your US import will cost you from day 1.

An audi dealer will charge you at least 3 hours labour to take your car for its mfk, so you're already looking at 1k chf just on that!!

And while we're on it how do you intend on getting the car from wherever the importer drops it off to the test center?? - and if it fails how do you intend on getting it out of the test center??? you can't leave it in their carpark!!

Of course you may get lucky and it flies through no issues, but that still leaves you with no warranty and no servicing which at an audi dealer are going to be big $$$ - One company has a monopoly on VAG cars here, AAMAG, just so you know

One of my current cars is an audi so I kinda have experience of their pricing having seen the bills they sent the guy who hit it recently

final final word - if your car has any non audi parts on, like after market wheels, you will need to put the originals back on or find out if they are swiss certified and get the certificate, even if the dealer sold you the wheels.

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Re: Importing a car from US to CH

Dear bigblue2, Thank you for the advice and feedback. There are lot of things that I do not know and I am learning about CH like the fact that car tax is included on the webpage. I know this is the case for goods in the shops (I have lived a year in Munich, spend numerous summers in Italy and 2 in Zurich and Lausanne each), but cars and houses are a bit different so it could be that one would pay the tax separately to the canton.

And you are correct that I know nothing of cars. I am the the first to admit it.
BTW, I am a dual US and EU citizen and am originally Iranian so I am not a yank as you put it I understand the metric system and for half of my life lived on 220V.

I am sorry if my questions were tiresome or bothered you, I teach for a living so understand the frustration. But you and Tom have the option of not responding to the tiresome posts thick me posts. It is a public forum after all they are not targeted to you specifically

I am grateful for the feedback I got though so if you are ever in the Lausanne area, please let me know and I will be happy to buy you a drink. I promise not to talk about cars. Have a lovely day.
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Re: Importing a car from US to CH

What car will you use until you got yours approved? Apparently one month may be far from enough, subject to details of course.
While you can get a small car for less, you should probably budget 2-3k per month.
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What car will you use until you got yours approved? Apparently one month may be far from enough, subject to details of course.
While you can get a small car for less, you should probably budget 2-3k per month.

When importing as household goods you have one year in order to get it to pass the MFK inspection. IF you can find someone to insure the car you can actually drive around with foreign license plates during this time.
I actually did this for about 6 months.



And yes the MFK guys can be mean to you during the inspection. They made my wife cry once when she went there herself.



Miu,if you want things to be simple, it would be best to get a car here instead.
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Re: Importing a car from US to CH

Everywhere is pretty much closed today (4th weekend). Will checkout about selling the car on Monday.
BTW got the following quotes from the Swiss company that can help me import the car:
"Then there will be two scenarios for the full CH-registration process for your car:
The car is approved without adding headlights washing device and the process will cost CHF 2900.-
We need to add the headlights washing device and the process will cost CHF 4100.-
It is impossible to say in advance if we will need to add them or not.

This also includes pickup once the car is in Switzerland and delivery back to you CH-registered and ready to drive.
The car has to be 100% original and in good condition.
Note that once we have the car and all required documents, the process should take 2-3 weeks to be completed. "
In case others are interested to know. The first scenario is not too bad but given the possibility of the higher charges and all the advice I got here, I think I might just sell it if they do not give me peanuts in US....I just dislike dealing with car dealers. It does not help that they can see immediately I am clueless
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There are lot of things that I do not know and I am learning about CH like the fact that car tax is included on the webpage.
There is NO tax on used vehicles, so nothing to include!

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What car will you use until you got yours approved? Apparently one month may be far from enough, subject to details of course.
While you can get a small car for less, you should probably budget 2-3k per month.
I will use public transport and both kid's school and my work place is walking distance from our place. BTW, the summer I lived in Lausanne, I used to walk most days 50-60 mins each way to work (I had a bike too but could not manage the hills in Lausanne...lol). I am not addicted to my car
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There is NO tax on used vehicles, so nothing to include!

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My apologies. You had said that and I forgot it.
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