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Importing a modified vehicle from the U.S.A

I'm currently in the middle of the relocation process to Zug, Zug. I have a vehicle in the States that is modified to a rather extreme extent.

It's a 2015 Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8 that I have had the engine torn apart, machined, sleeved, forged internals, camshafts, head-studs, different pulleys. Literally the whole 9 yards. It was almost $40,000 of a build. It also has a single 6266 Turbo and probably makes roughly 550-600whp.

It's a manual transmission vehicle with no body modifications. It is street legal and inspected in my state, Texas, which does have emissions guidelines.


I've heard different things when it comes to this, as over here if you modify a vehicle outside of a set parameter, you have to pay for homologation is what I've heard, which is very expensive, but I have also heard that since the vehicle is technically homologated within the country it's from, it should be fine.

I'm about $70,000 into this car and I really don't want to leave it behind. Looking for options and guidance to get it on the roads here.


I do not mind having a special exhaust installed to keep it quiet around town.
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Re: Importing a modified vehicle from the U.S.A

NOTE: After reading posts here, I don't want to hear things like "It's not worth it." and "It will be expensive". I'm looking for numbers. Conversions that will need to be done. Etc. I don't mind getting another vehicle if need be for daily commute, but I would LOVE to have this thing to take to germany and hit some tracks.

This vehicle is my own custom adventure, and has a lot done. I know it's going to be a huge PITA, but it shouldn't be impossible.
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Old 12.07.2019, 17:04
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Re: Importing a modified vehicle from the U.S.A

It will literally be impossible. Firstly I don't think this model even exists here, so converting just the basic stuff (headlamps, speedo etc) will be almost impossible and will require importing items.

You say that it shouldn't be impossible, but I think the only way you will get it here is to undo absolutely everything you have done. Oh, and no, if it was homologated elsewhere that does not mean it is 'fine'.

I've heard of classic cars failing because braided brake hoses were installed to aid safety.
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Re: Importing a modified vehicle from the U.S.A

I'm not going to tell you it's impossible but here's a good place to start- if you don't speak German, googel translate is your friend:

https://www.admin.ch/opc/de/classifi...ex.html#id-1-2
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but it shouldn't be impossible.
It is. Switzerland is extremly stringent on their rules. Parts have to be either original or type approved. No matter if this makes logical sense or not. I dont think your model was ever sold in CH in the first place.

You wont find any engine swapped cars around. Hot camshafts? Thats illegal. Putting a turbo on Hyundai never sold? Forget about it. You could get away with the forged parts and machined block as nobody is ever going to control that… but the rest just wont be happening. Even the stock Hyundai would be an issue.

I would not sell it either… unless you really find somebody who appreciates it. Maybe properly store it in the US?
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Old 12.07.2019, 17:33
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Re: Importing a modified vehicle from the U.S.A

Don‘t worry, you will only have to bring it back to Original Specs. I would worry more about your Texan driving license, a lot of US licenses are Not recognized in CH.
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Re: Importing a modified vehicle from the U.S.A

I freely admit I don't know much about cars, but there are some Hyundai Genesis for sale on AutoScout, and a few are even 3.8 V6 Coupé:
https://www.autoscout24.ch/de/auto-m...undai--genesis
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I freely admit I don't know much about cars, but there are some Hyundai Genesis for sale on AutoScout, and a few are even 3.8 V6 Coupé:
https://www.autoscout24.ch/de/auto-m...undai--genesis
Yep, true. It seems it was sold here (Typenschein 1HB814)… we were all just not aware of it

You can even get approved aftermarket parts: https://www.raceland.ch/index.asp?in...at=464&ID=3156

But getting a random turbo or hot camshafts approved? No chance.
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It is. Switzerland is extremly stringent on their rules. Parts have to be either original or type approved. No matter if this makes logical sense or not. I dont think your model was ever sold in CH in the first place.

You wont find any engine swapped cars around. Hot camshafts? Thats illegal. Putting a turbo on Hyundai never sold? Forget about it. You could get away with the forged parts and machined block as nobody is ever going to control that… but the rest just wont be happening. Even the stock Hyundai would be an issue.

I would not sell it either… unless you really find somebody who appreciates it. Maybe properly store it in the US?
That's a shame, what about shipping it for track use, as that was one of the options I mentioned. My only other options short of that is to break down and spend the money on a newer track car with the power I'd like.
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Old 12.07.2019, 18:06
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That's a shame, what about shipping it for track use, as that was one of the options I mentioned. My only other options short of that is to break down and spend the money on a newer track car with the power I'd like.
There are no tracks in Switzerland. Yes, you guessed it: racing around a track is illegal (outlawed after the 1955 les Mans disaster).

I dont think there is a way to get the money back... finding a person who appreciates a tricked out Hyundai on that level must be close to impossible. Getting the money for used performance parts… the work hours spent… not a chance, no?

However, I would recommend to go for something street legal instead as the real fun in Switzerland are mountain passes. (And even if you do drive to a track, say the Nürburgring, does your car need to be street legal for the Nordschleife on normal days…)
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Old 12.07.2019, 18:09
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You wont find any engine swapped cars around.
I certainly know of several.

In one case, a friend bought it from the guy who brought it in with his household goods, and it is not a model sold here. He had no problems homologating it, but on the other hand his father is an expert mechanic.

Also, cams and headwork are not a problem.

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That's a shame, what about shipping it for track use, as that was one of the options I mentioned. My only other options short of that is to break down and spend the money on a newer track car with the power I'd like.
You are aware of the lack of tracks in Switzerland, surely you can race in Germany/France but unless a real enthusiastic and willing to travel far the car will just sit in your garage.
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But getting a random turbo or hot camshafts approved? No chance.
Just get full FAKT/DTC and FH Biel conformity and homologation testing. What can ist cost? 10 - 20 k maybe? But it needs a shit load of construction and other technical papers of the parts which one might not have and are hard to get.
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Just get full FAKT/DTC and FH Biel conformity and homologation testing. What can ist cost? 10 - 20 k maybe? But it needs a shit load of construction and other technical papers of the parts which one might not have and are hard to get.
Even then: You will only get through if your parts meet European standards, especially emission standards. I dont think the OP got a different camshaft to lower the CO2 emissions of the engine…
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I've heard of classic cars failing because braided brake hoses were installed to aid safety.
This happened to me, but it passed after I was able to show a document from the UK supplier certifying that the brake hoses were approved for my car. There was just the hassle and cost of the second inspection.
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This happened to me, but it passed after I was able to show a document from the UK supplier certifying that the brake hoses were approved for my car. There was just the hassle and cost of the second inspection.
Really? A UK approval only or was it a CH one? Which canton was that?

I had rims, right size, documents that they are ok in Germany... but since they did not sell in CH and the manufacturer or distributors did not have any approvals for that model in CH would I have to spend more bucks on getting them approved than to buy a set of new ones… but I heard that canton ZH is specifically annoying about this stuff.
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This happened to me, but it passed after I was able to show a document from the UK supplier certifying that the brake hoses were approved for my car. There was just the hassle and cost of the second inspection.
Regulations can change. AFAIK if you do not have ABS, an approval for braided hoses is no longer needed (at least this is the case with motorcycles)
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It is possible, it will just cost a lot of money, with no guarantee of acceptance at the end.
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AFAIK if you do not have ABS, an approval for braided hoses is no longer needed (at least this is the case with motorcycles)
Since when?

In all cantons?

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Re: Importing a modified vehicle from the U.S.A

It's probably doable, but it'll be expensive.

(Last "reengined" car I saw through the MFK cost 7K just to get them to accept that engine in that car.)

Tuning is accepted, as long as the emissions don't increase by more than 5%.

Bring it if you are ok with it just being a track car. You'll need a trailer, and a vehicle to pull it, and you'll be leaving CH to hit the loud pedal.
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