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Old 08.08.2019, 15:24
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Train to Stuttgart

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I need to travel to Stuttgart in October and I wondered if anyone had done this route before? SBB has a few direct trains via schaffhausen/ singen. My question is how far in advance do I need to book to get the saver fare? It doesn't say on SBB site - it just says :

Zürich HB - Stuttgart Hbf Super Saver fare Cannot be exchanged or refunded /
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also, my friend advised i book on Deutsche Bahn website for a cheaper price. has anyone done this? Since i am going fm ZH is this even possible? two separate tickets? thanks.
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Old 08.08.2019, 15:28
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Re: Train to Stuttgart

sorry for some reason i can't edit my post but i also need to know if DB trains has specified times - so if i do choose a ticket it has to be on that specified train - unlike SBB where your ticket is valid for a certain time period?
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Re: Train to Stuttgart

Have a look at the combined prices Zurich - Singen (or any other German stop on the train you want) plus Singen - Stuttgart. As long as you actually travel via the connecting point, I don't see any reason why this wouldn't' be valid.

Super Saver availability and prices will depend on supply and demand. Pick an off-peak time and you might be able to get a SS ticket up to the day before. But your mileage will vary.
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Have a look at the combined prices Zurich - Singen (or any other German stop on the train you want) plus Singen - Stuttgart. As long as you actually travel via the connecting point, I don't see any reason why this wouldn't' be valid.

Super Saver availability and prices will depend on supply and demand. Pick an off-peak time and you might be able to get a SS ticket up to the day before. But your mileage will vary.

thanks bowlie. as i'm doing my research online in singapore - it's a bit stressful. the complicated bit is i am travelling from thurgau before to reach ZH HB to take the direct train (which i prefer) but as thurgau is actually closer to DE - the SBB website keeps suggesting i go via konstanz/ singen/ winti etc. So to make things easier for me I just like the idea of the direct IC train fm HB to Stuttgart. But good to know the SS ticket can be bought up to a day before. So I can still risk to buy it when i arrive in Switzerland the week prior. Still I probably will purchase it online before...
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Old 08.08.2019, 15:45
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Re: Train to Stuttgart

I would book the whole thing using the DB website.

www.bahn.de

For international trains it's somewhat eaaier to use than the SBB website and you get a comparison of the differrent pricing options so you can immediately see which options are flexible, ie you can take any train you want, and which require you to take a particular train, and then you can decide for yourself if the saving justifies the inconvenience.

Downside is you need to pay in Euros which may end up being slightly more costly if you're using a CHF credit card.

If you have a Singapore credit card, it probably doesn't make a difference though.

From experience these trains are rarely completely full (and more often than not they're only about half full) so unless you are picking the first or last day of the school holidays or something, no need to book long in advance.
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Old 08.08.2019, 15:52
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I would book the whole thing using the DB website.

www.bahn.de

For international trains it's somewhat eaaier to use than the SBB website and you get a comparison of the differrent pricing options so you can immediately see which options are flexible, ie you can take any train you want, and which require you to take a particular train, and then you can decide for yourself if the saving justifies the inconvenience.

Downside is you need to pay in Euros which may end up being slightly more costly if you're using a CHF credit card.

If you have a Singapore credit card, it probably doesn't make a difference though.

From experience these trains are rarely completely full (and more often than not they're only about half full) so unless you are picking the first or last day of the school holidays or something, no need to book long in advance.

thanks will look into it. Euros no problem since it is SGD i'm using. I was going to say i didn't think my route during that time will be very busy. I just wanted to know if SS required advanced booking like in UK (28 days etc)

Also anyone know if there is wifi onboard German IC4 trains?
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Old 08.08.2019, 16:03
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Re: Train to Stuttgart

The man in seat61 knows everything.

Here is his bit about European train booking, specifically mentioning DE and CH railways. You may be a bit late for the cheapest tickets.

More stuff here
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Old 08.08.2019, 16:35
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thanks will look into it. Euros no problem since it is SGD i'm using. I was going to say i didn't think my route during that time will be very busy. I just wanted to know if SS required advanced booking like in UK (28 days etc)

Also anyone know if there is wifi onboard German IC4 trains?
No need to book in advance. In fact you can buy your ticket ten minutes before departure if you want.

However, many special (reduced price) offers are only available in advance. So if you want one of these, book as early as you can. These are typically the offers that force you to commit to one particular train and that you can't exchange.

The base (flexible) price on the other hand doesn't change, so this will be the same whether you book on the day or whether you book 3 months ahead, and is also easier to get a refund on if you change your mind.

I don't think you will get an ICE4 on the Zürich Stuttgart route. More likely it's Swiss UIC coaches pulled by a locomotive. These coaches don't have WiFi.

The connections that involve changing trains at Schaffhausen typically involve a DB Regio train on the German leg. This train is slower than the train with Swiss coaches, and does more stops. It's also not as nice inside (but this is a matter of opinion of course) so I would go for a direct train if at all possible.

Concerning WifI on ICE4

On other routes inside Germany where ICEs operate (not just the ICE4, the older models too), there is WiFi, and its fairly reliable.
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Re: Train to Stuttgart

The IC 4 to stuttgart is done by the sbb with swiss cars, so no wifi on board.

When you change trains in singen /schaffhausen for some connections , there is no wifi on board, despite the cars are from the deutsche bahn.

I would recommend buying the ticket from the deutsche bahn aswell, so you can save a lot of money.
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Re: Train to Stuttgart

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https://loco2.com/en
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Re: Train to Stuttgart

https://www.sbb.ch/en/buying/pages/f...fahrplan.xhtml

On this page you can check for supersaver departure times. Put in your connections and then search. At the top of the page you will see " search Supersaver "


I don't think there are direct trains. You have to change trains. And yes you have to travel on the train that you booked the supersaver

https://www.sbb.ch/en/travelcards-an...r-tickets.html

Hardly any difference in price between SBB and DB using supersaver
And you are certainly NOT too late for supersaver

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Re: Train to Stuttgart

Or go by bus. Much cheaper


https://www.flixbus.ch/busverbindung...kaAoLQEALw_wcB
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Old 09.08.2019, 11:29
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I don't think there are direct trains. You have to change trains.
Ugh?

So I've been imagining all those direct trains I've been on over the years, and that are still there today?
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Ugh?

So I've been imagining all those direct trains I've been on over the years, and that are still there today?
Apparently so, I can only find a minimum of 1 change from ZHB to SHB.

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Old 09.08.2019, 11:41
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Apparently so, I can only find a minimum of 1 change from ZHB to SHB.

Tom
Something is strange here.

Those connections all seem to be going the long way round, via Karlsruhe, which is a crazy detour and makes no sense.

Maybe the direct line is temporarily closed for some reason.
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Re: Train to Stuttgart

According to DB the direct route is closed until 8th September (and then a second time from 26th October to 3rd November) as they are renewing the tracks between Tuttlingen and Singen.

https://inside.bahn.de/grossbaustellen/#J
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According to DB the direct route is closed until 8th September (and then a second time from 26th October to 3rd November) as they are renewing the tracks between Tuttlingen and Singen.

https://inside.bahn.de/grossbaustellen/#J

wow, thats fortunate for me my travel dates are inbetween these two renovation dates!
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Re: Train to Stuttgart

I tried this site recently for a set of tickets from a Swiss destination to somewhere in Italy.

The total price was 472 GBP for two adults and three children.

I booked the same trip using the SBB site and the price was 272 CHF.

The only difference was that the loco site lets you chose half-tax cards as an option but has no option for Swiss Junior cards when you buy the tickets.

Worth remembering if people are buying tickets for a group including children.
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wow, thats fortunate for me my travel dates are inbetween these two renovation dates!
Cant understand why you don't go by bus?
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Cant understand why you don't go by bus?



Might end up meeting you, or ev en worse, sitting next to you
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