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k_and_e 13.08.2019 19:48

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Originally Posted by AbFab (Post 3091021)
On average 400 petrol cars burn and explode every day world-wide. They don‘t make news and a single Tesla does because the oil companies, car companies and all the billions per day turned over in this dinosaur-based industry are scared shitless by EVs closing their gold mine....

Source please.

AbFab 13.08.2019 19:53

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Originally Posted by st2lemans (Post 3091024)
While I have seen several burn over the years, I have yet to see one explode (except in movies). :rolleyes:

Tom

Search „exploding cars“ on YouTube...

k_and_e 13.08.2019 19:58

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Originally Posted by AbFab (Post 3091033)
Search „exploding cars“ on YouTube...

I did. Good to see The A Team again.

st2lemans 13.08.2019 20:01

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Originally Posted by fatmanfilms (Post 3091028)
Petrol cars don't explode except in Hollywood movies, they just burn.

Same with motorcycles.

Tom

Privet 14.08.2019 09:54

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Petrol cars don't explode, LNG/CNG on the other hand... Quite common back home (probably mostly because the owners did the retrofit themselves and/or are too cheap to pay a professional to have it serviced).

Driving a BEV daily (15k km/year) for work, I am not looking back to petrol and diesel powered cars. Had to drive one last week in the caucasian mountains it feels like riding a donkey (grantend it was a Priora).

If you search for a commuter car, the Tesla Model 3 LR might is a solid choice.

If BEVs are an absolute no no, I really can recommend you the Toyota and Lexus Hybrids. Since you want to have a nice interior, go for a Lexus.

Good alternative could be a volvo (XC40).

we_da_man 14.08.2019 10:25

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Have a look at the JAGUAR I-PACE, ~600KM range


https://www.jaguar.com/jaguar-range/i-pace/index.html

Nice looking interior
https://article.images.consumerrepor...-Pace-int-2-19

st2lemans 14.08.2019 10:31

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https://www.tradingpaints.com/showro...s/184049/1.jpg

Tom

Treverus 14.08.2019 10:36

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Originally Posted by Medea Fleecestealer (Post 3090967)
Have you even test driven one?

Hubby drives to Lausanne and back every day for work. Gets 4.5-5ltr per 100 kms in his top of the range 1.6 diesel Tekna. Fills up once a week.

If you're going to be fussy, better say what models are acceptable rather than say no to all suggestions.

Well, I will not just point out that your Nissan isnt exactly as pretty as the OPs TT in any way imaginable, but that hasnt worked before… so lets stick to the facts: the 2009 and 2010 models were perfectly average cars in every aspect. The newer models are not: With every single year did they get worse and score by now in the worst 5% of the reliability rating of the ADAC.
https://www.adac.de/infotestrat/unfa...=76&pstatid=11

In their class, lower middle class, is that actually not easy to be among the worst 5%, its the only Japanese car which managed to produce that many issues. The only other cars in the same class as bad as the Qasqai are either French or Korean (Edit: apparently not, forgot about the Dacia and Ford).
https://www.adac.de/rund-ums-fahrzeu...nnenstatistik/

Simply put: they are statistically proven to be crap, dont buy one.

edot 14.08.2019 10:51

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TT is still one of my favorite cars - it was my last car in the US. The black jelly bean. It’s sad that assholes are hitting you. We didn’t get one here because we have only 1 car and an old dog.

I have no suggestions. I drive a Hyundai Tucson, which is excellent, but not suited to your needs.

Tom1234 14.08.2019 10:54

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Originally Posted by Treverus (Post 3091161)

Simply put: they are statistically proven to be crap, dont buy one.

How many people are totally objective in their choices when buying a car?

Loads of people on this forum dismiss certain brands and manufacturers as unreliable (because they had one twenty years ago which broke down) yet when current data doesn't back this up, they still don't consider them.

Phil_MCR 14.08.2019 11:01

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Originally Posted by bigblue2 (Post 3090976)
this is the only reason I bought the audi, its the 1.8 and gets 5l per 100km, which is better then a 1.6 focus! but I under estimated just how hated audi drivers are ;)

https://fourtitude.com/wp-content/up...interior-2.jpg

now if there is another car out there with an interior anywhere near as nice as that I'd be on it in a flash.

all the other cars I looked at where just a mess inside, screens and buttons everywhere as everything was an add on extra or just designed by an idiot.

A wrap is an idea but not really sure it would solve the issue

made me think. are there any 'stealth' cars which are luxurious on the inside, but look like crap on the outside?

k_and_e 14.08.2019 11:02

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Originally Posted by Phil_MCR (Post 3091173)
made me think. are there any 'stealth' cars which are luxurious on the inside, but look like crap on the outside?


Lexus

Sandgrounder 14.08.2019 11:06

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Originally Posted by Tom1234 (Post 3091168)
How many people are totally objective in their choices when buying a car?

Loads of people on this forum dismiss certain brands and manufacturers as unreliable (because they had one twenty years ago which broke down) yet when current data doesn't back this up, they still don't consider them.

I read Treverus' article as showing cars which break down the most "currently" not 20 years ago. For me, that's a good enough reason to think carefully about buying one if statistically it's going to see me forking out in time and money when I could buy one which is statistically more reliable.

People have all sorts of bizarre reasons for not buying a make or type of car (I've seen some crackers on this forum :D) but hard stats are a good indicator to consider.

NickGB 14.08.2019 11:16

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Originally Posted by bigblue2 (Post 3090976)
this is the only reason I bought the audi, its the 1.8 and gets 5l per 100km, which is better then a 1.6 focus! but I under estimated just how hated audi drivers are ;)

https://fourtitude.com/wp-content/up...interior-2.jpg

now if there is another car out there with an interior anywhere near as nice as that I'd be on it in a flash.

all the other cars I looked at where just a mess inside, screens and buttons everywhere as everything was an add on extra or just designed by an idiot.

A wrap is an idea but not really sure it would solve the issue


Is this your car?

Treverus 14.08.2019 11:17

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Originally Posted by Tom1234 (Post 3091168)
How many people are totally objective in their choices when buying a car?

Its impossible to be objective as major factors, say interior design, are by definition subjective.

However, I for one look at the objective facts to make an informed decision.

Simple example: I wrote that I bought a Z4 as a second car this year. Originally wanted to spend less and go for an even older SLK 350 instead. Turns out that Mercedes had some major issues with the V6 engines between 05 and 07: the balance shaft had a cog wheel made out of too soft metal. Known issue, can royally screw up an engine with repair costs around 5k. On a car worth around 11k. Mercedes kind of admits that it was a faulty part and that all parts from a certain engine number onwards are safe… but decided to not make a call back and apparently only offered to foot part of the bills for the first owners of the cars a few years back. No information on how many percent of the engines developed that problem… articles claiming anything from 5% to 100%. So I did not go for one of those, no matter how much I liked the car and the price… the people who bought those cars new are now in trouble to find an idiot to buy them off them.

bigblue2 14.08.2019 11:21

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Originally Posted by NickGB (Post 3091182)
Is this your car?

nope, mine has Alcantara instead of leather but other then that its the same

3Wishes 14.08.2019 11:24

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Originally Posted by we_da_man (Post 3091159)
Have a look at the JAGUAR I-PACE, ~600KM range...

Jags can be pretty, but everyone I know who owns one has had major maintenance issues and it's pricey to fix. They loved the look and feel, but regretted the purchase because it hit the wallet hard and often.

bigblue2 14.08.2019 11:25

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Originally Posted by Treverus (Post 3091183)
Its impossible to be objective as major factors, say interior design, are by definition subjective.

However, I for one look at the objective facts to make an informed decision.

Simple example: I wrote that I bought a Z4 as a second car this year. Originally wanted to spend less and go for an even older SLK 350 instead. Turns out that Mercedes had some major issues with the V6 engines between 05 and 07: the balance shaft had a cog wheel made out of too soft metal. Known issue, can royally screw up an engine with repair costs around 5k. On a car worth around 11k. Mercedes kind of admits that it was a faulty part and that all parts from a certain engine number onwards are safe… but decided to not make a call back and apparently only offered to foot part of the bills for the first owners of the cars a few years back. No information on how many percent of the engines developed that problem… articles claiming anything from 5% to 100%. So I did not go for one of those, no matter how much I liked the car and the price… the people who bought those cars new are now in trouble to find an idiot to buy them off them.


had a similar experience when we bought the mustang, I was actually going to buy an SL500 but did a quick google and read the horror stories about the suspension, dealer refused to put an extra guarantee on the compressors so I walked away

Tom1234 14.08.2019 11:33

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Originally Posted by Sandgrounder (Post 3091176)
I read Treverus' article as showing cars which break down the most "currently" not 20 years ago. For me, that's a good enough reason to think carefully about buying one if statistically it's going to see me forking out in time and money when I could buy one which is statistically more reliable.

Where did I say I disagreed with him? My point was that some people can't think rationally about these things.

Lots of German and Japanese cars just aren't reliable anymore compared with some which were unreliable in the past.

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Originally Posted by Sandgrounder (Post 3091176)

People have all sorts of bizarre reasons for not buying a make or type of car (I've seen some crackers on this forum :D) but hard stats are a good indicator to consider.

That was my point.

Having said that, the most reliable car in a survey can be, for example 96.2% reliable and then twenty or thirty cars down the list, the reliability is a stunningly different 94.6 reliable.

Most modern cars are pretty reliable apart from a few exceptions which have serial or design faults and probably the only way to avoid the latter is to avoid buying a recently launched car.

Treverus 14.08.2019 11:36

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Originally Posted by bigblue2 (Post 3091191)
had a similar experience when we bought the mustang, I was actually going to buy an SL500 but did a quick google and read the horror stories about the suspension, dealer refused to put an extra guarantee on the compressors so I walked away

Yeah, I called a dealer up on an SLK and asked "has the balancing shaft been exchanged". The moment a dealer knows immediately without looking into the papers of one of his dozen cars "no, thats probably still the original one"... you know that he knows and he knows that I know… so we both just friendly said "ok, bye"...


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