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Speeding fine from France

Hi all! I've got a bit of a funny situation;

I drove from the UK to Switzerland through France 10 months ago with my UK registered car (I used to live in the UK and now I live in Switzerland, for the last 10months).

I rented my place in the UK and engaged with a neighbour to collect my posts on my behalf. However, that person somehow forgot to send me/inform me about a very important letter from France, a speeding fine!

Since I had to no idea about the letter and it was not paid, they seem to have increased the fine from ..EUR (unknown) to 200 EUR.

My question is, what should I do? Options I can think of:
1- Call the French authorities and explain the situation and hope they will be understanding!
2- Ignore the fine since I dont intend to visit France in my lifetime (I dont have any reason to go there, not my favourite county after this hehe!)
3- ?
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Old 26.09.2019, 10:10
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Re: Speeding fine from France

1 and 3: pay
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Re: Speeding fine from France

3. Pay the 200,- since it is your responsibility that you retrieve the mail from the adres you are/were registered on, and it does not matter that you do not want to return to France ever again since France and Switzerland have a treaty so the French will give the case to the Swiss authorities who will do their best effort to collect the money from you, and if you think 200,- is much, just wait till you see what the Swiss will add to it if you refuse to pay.
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Re: Speeding fine from France

I agree, you should pay as 200 is cheap compared with what you may end up paying.

My buddy who left CH for US (leaving behind some unpaid fines) was stopped by chance at GVA upon entering for a visit, and detained until he paid the outstanding fines and interest. He had to call another friend to come and help him pay.
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Old 26.09.2019, 10:22
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My question is, what should I do? Options I can think of:
1- Call the French authorities and explain the situation and hope they will be understanding!
Bwaahahaa! Yes, that'll work all right. Fine issuing authorities the world over are known for taking pity on people with completely plausible excuses for why they didn't pay.

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2- Ignore the fine since I dont intend to visit France in my lifetime (I dont have any reason to go there, not my favourite county after this hehe!)
If you had severed all UK connections, including the car registration, and left no forwarding address, you might stand a small chance of getting away with this but from the context I'm assuming not. It's not a question of whether you go to France or not, the fine will be pursued through the British system, so ultimately the bailiffs would be knocking on your (tenant's) door.
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I agree, you should pay as 200 is cheap compared with what you may end up paying.

My buddy who left CH for US (leaving behind some unpaid fines) was stopped by chance at GVA upon entering for a visit, and detained until he paid the outstanding fines and interest. He had to call another friend to come and help him pay.

Isn't it absolutely wonderful living in the conected age....
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Old 26.09.2019, 10:28
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d it does not matter that you do not want to return to France ever again since France and Switzerland have a treaty so the French will give the case to the Swiss authorities
No, it's a UK registration, so unless someone voluntarily tells the French authorities the OP is resident in CH and gives them the address it will remain a UK matter.
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Old 26.09.2019, 10:55
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Since I had to no idea about the letter and it was not paid, they seem to have increased the fine from ..EUR (unknown) to 200 EUR.
EUR 200 Should be EUR 180. Original fine was EUR 68, for a simple traffic infraction of less than 20 km/h over the legal speed limit outside urban area. Amount gets increased if not paid within 60 days, and a discount is given if paid within 30 days.

https://www.service-public.fr/partic...sdroits/F19460
https://www.service-public.fr/partic...sdroits/F18509
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No, it's a UK registration, so unless someone voluntarily tells the French authorities the OP is resident in CH and gives them the address it will remain a UK matter.
The French are entitled to the data valid on the moment of doing the offence due to the cross-border enforcement directive so they have clarity about the identity of the owner. They will look for OP in England first, and assuming he in England now is registered as living in Switzerland I see no reason why they wil not give them the info after which the French can give the case to the Swiss.
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Re: Speeding fine from France

Just pay it quick before the authorities start digging into how you have a car registered (and presumable insured) in the UK when you are not resident there. And also driving that foreign registered car in Switzerland when you are resident here.

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Old 26.09.2019, 11:22
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Just pay it quick before the authorities start digging into how you have a car registered (and presumable insured) in the UK when you are not resident there. And also driving that foreign registered car in Switzerland when you are resident here.

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He could have gotten the fine while still being a UK resident after which he signed over the Switzerland and sold the car, has an exception for a year or imported it according to the rules.
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He could have gotten the fine while still being a UK resident after which he signed over the Switzerland and sold the car, has an exception for a year or imported it according to the rules.
You're right, I first read it as he still has the car registered there whilst living here. In that case, a call to the French explaining the delay might get them to reduce the fine.
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Re: Speeding fine from France

I'd probably not spend much time over haggling to reduce a (still quite) reasonable fee.

And even without intentions of visiting France (a beautiful country, by the way ) I'd not feel very well myself with having basically a "self-imposed travel ban" on one of the few countries around.
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EUR 200 Should be EUR 180. Original fine was EUR 68, for a simple traffic infraction of less than 20 km/h over the legal speed limit outside urban area. Amount gets increased if not paid within 60 days, and a discount is given if paid within 30 days.

https://www.service-public.fr/partic...sdroits/F19460
https://www.service-public.fr/partic...sdroits/F18509
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Old 26.09.2019, 13:26
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Re: Speeding fine from France

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2- Ignore the fine since I dont intend to visit France in my lifetime (I dont have any reason to go there, not my favourite county after this hehe!)
3- ?
In which way is their fault for your own negligence?

And good riddance, I aways thought there are too many tourists there.
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