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Old 16.08.2020, 16:22
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Re: Swiss Cycling Rules & Guidance in English?

Had an interesting one today where some opinions/laws would be helpful for me to understand who is right.

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I was sitting in traffic on Seilergraben in Zürich just below the ETH where the road looks like my attachment and as you can see on the left behind the motorbike, there is no bike lane on the outside of the lane and tramlines on the inside. Not wanting to upset tram drivers and get a scratched car, I basically sat in the middle of the lane. Queue an upset cyclist who then banged her hand (with a nice clink from a ring she was wearing) on my childs window, gives me the finger and goes on her merry way. I helped to de-escalate the situation by checking that my horn works and giving her a clap for the talented effort of riding with one hand.

Due to nothing happening before this I can only assume she was pissed that I hadn't given adequate room for her to pass on the right so this gives me two questions

1. Was she allowed to pass on the right when there is no bike lane? Should the bicycle be considered part of the normal road rules?
2. How do I avoid enraging other cyclists when presented with the same situation next week as I tend to drive this part of Zurich at least once a week.

I should say that I am very bike friendly while on the road and give space/distance etc when it's called for but in this situation I can't see where else I could have put the car.
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Old 16.08.2020, 16:46
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Re: Swiss Cycling Rules & Guidance in English?

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1. Was she allowed to pass on the right when there is no bike lane? Should the bicycle be considered part of the normal road rules?
For this we have best a look into the actual road rules. The Verkehrsregelnverordnung. The rule we are looking for is in Art. 42 Abs 3 VRV

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Radfahrer dürfen rechts neben einer Motorfahrzeugkolonne vorbeifahren, wenn genügend freier Raum vorhanden ist; das slalomartige Vorfahren ist untersagt. Sie dürfen die Weiterfahrt der Kolonne nicht behindern und sich namentlich nicht vor haltende Wagen stellen

Cyclists may pass on the right side of a motor vehicle queue if there is enough free space; slalom-like driving is prohibited. They are not allowed to obstruct the progress of the traffic queue and in particular they are not allowed to stand in front of a car that has stopped.
Note the above rule also applies to Motorfahrräder: Electric or combustion powered pedal bikes. And also those pesky e-scooters which do not need a license plate which go no more than 25 km/h.


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2. How do I avoid enraging other cyclists when presented with the same situation next week as I tend to drive this part of Zurich at least once a week.
Keep as far right in your lane as possible. If you can still see the yellow lane passing along your car you won't hinder the tram. And in some situations there is just not enough space. This means cyclist have to keep there position in the queue, be patient and wait till traffic proceed just like everyone else one the road. Or whole the bike onto the side walk and push it there (bike riding is prohibit, but for toddlers) If a cyclist never the less gets enraged keep calm and cool.

PS: Just for completeness here the rule for motorcyles which is found in Art. 47 SVG:
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Wenn der Verkehr angehalten wird, haben die Motorradfahrer ihren Platz in der Fahrzeugkolonne beizubehalten.

When the traffic is stopped, motorcyclist must keep their place in the queue.
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Re: Swiss Cycling Rules & Guidance in English?

Many thanks aSwissInTheUS for the detailed reply! I guessed it was okay to pass on the right if a cyclist thought it was safe and now I have the exact answer This will also come in handy in a few years time when my child is one of those powered pedal bike users!

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