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Old 16.01.2020, 19:24
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Re: Sports car on a budget

you want me to put the kid onto the roof?
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Old 17.01.2020, 07:25
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Re: Sports car on a budget

In the USA one sees all sorts of wild cars. But in CH its always the same boring lot of non-descriptive cars. Theres no real cars here!
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Old 17.01.2020, 11:45
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In the USA one sees all sorts of wild cars. But in CH its always the same boring lot of non-descriptive cars. Theres no real cars here!

The colors are the issue. I was looking for a new car last year. I asked several car sales people why all cars were black, gray, white or a blue that looks like black. The story was the same: customers prefer boring colors because it's easier to sell them to other people at the end of the lease. This is totally reasonable for VW or Toyota econoboxes, not beauties I ended loving a black one because it was already at the dealership and had a steep discount. Ordering one in a non-boring color would have been financially painful.
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Old 17.01.2020, 12:17
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The colors are the issue. I was looking for a new car last year. I asked several car sales people why all cars were black, gray, white or a blue that looks like black. The story was the same: customers prefer boring colors because it's easier to sell them to other people at the end of the lease. This is totally reasonable for VW or Toyota econoboxes, not beauties I ended loving a black one because it was already at the dealership and had a steep discount. Ordering one in a non-boring color would have been financially painful.
I am not talking about colours. I am talking about cars.
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I ended loving a black one because it was already at the dealership and had a steep discount. Ordering one in a non-boring color would have been financially painful.
I thought we would have the same problem .... but to my delight, there was a bright red showroom model available with all the "extras" we wanted.

Also helped the trade-in value of the previous car (also bright red) as the salesman tried to argue that it would be hard to sell on....whereupon I asked why they had showroom models in that colour then
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you want me to put the kid onto the roof?
You obviously need to fix that pram properly...

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Old 13.02.2020, 12:45
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Re: Sports car on a budget

Hey User137, long time not heard, and now spring is on the way .... please tell us all, What sports car did you get in the end ?
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Old 13.02.2020, 16:03
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Re: Sports car on a budget

Well I could start a new thread but someone just reminded me this exists so I'm hijacking it, if not right please admin away.
My hot hatch has died, high mileage and too many issues to be economically viable to repair.

Now if you people had a choice between a 2015 Golf R or a BMW M135i, where which way would you go? Note, car is for all year so I've concerns about snow with the projector, but also not sure on the haldex on the peoples car.
Any other nice suggestions welcome around the 30k mark.
Side note, I've a size restriction due to a tiny parking space, anything longer than 4.5m starts to get very tight.
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Old 13.02.2020, 16:21
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Well I could start a new thread but someone just reminded me this exists so I'm hijacking it, if not right please admin away.
My hot hatch has died, high mileage and too many issues to be economically viable to repair.

Now if you people had a choice between a 2015 Golf R or a BMW M135i, where which way would you go? Note, car is for all year so I've concerns about snow with the projector, but also not sure on the haldex on the peoples car.
Any other nice suggestions welcome around the 30k mark.
Side note, I've a size restriction due to a tiny parking space, anything longer than 4.5m starts to get very tight.
Of course the BMW. A bit of a no-brainer.
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Old 13.02.2020, 16:50
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Of course the BMW. A bit of a no-brainer.
why?? at the end of the day its still a 1 series

fun rumor for you, the 1-series was originally the Rover 35, when bmw took their ball home they offered it to the phoenix 4 with a reduced loan, they refused so bmw turned it into the 1 series. I wonder if people would have recommended that as a sports car
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Old 13.02.2020, 16:55
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Of course the BMW. A bit of a no-brainer.
How much do you drive in winter/snow? Mountains?

The BMW is for sure the most engaging car in that segment, but if you depend on your car working on snow would I consider a quattro: https://www.autoscout24.ch/de/d/audi...%26vehtyp%3D10
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why?? at the end of the day its still a 1 series

fun rumor for you, the 1-series was originally the Rover 35, when bmw took their ball home they offered it to the phoenix 4 with a reduced loan, they refused so bmw turned it into the 1 series. I wonder if people would have recommended that as a sports car
That was the previous generation 1 series...
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How much do you drive in winter/snow? Mountains?

The BMW is for sure the most engaging car in that segment, but if you depend on your car working on snow would I consider a quattro: https://www.autoscout24.ch/de/d/audi...%26vehtyp%3D10
Or a BMW M135 xDrive.
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Old 13.02.2020, 17:05
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why?? at the end of the day its still a 1 series

fun rumor for you, the 1-series was originally the Rover 35, when bmw took their ball home they offered it to the phoenix 4 with a reduced loan, they refused so bmw turned it into the 1 series. I wonder if people would have recommended that as a sports car
Thats an urban legend which only exists in the heads of some rover fans in the UK. The simple truth of German engineering is that companies like BMW rather regularly reinvent the wheel and engineer the same concept over and over again… they certainly would not use a concept made in England which they didnt even manage to sell to the Chinese...

The 1 series was the logical next step from the rather successful 3 series compact. Key differentiator to pretty much all other hatchbacks was the RWD which made enough space in the engine compartment to stick in an inline six. Either way, that was the first gen 1 series anyways.
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Old 13.02.2020, 17:09
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How much do you drive in winter/snow? Mountains?

The BMW is for sure the most engaging car in that segment, but if you depend on your car working on snow would I consider a quattro: https://www.autoscout24.ch/de/d/audi...%26vehtyp%3D10
I drive for the fun of it and for getting places a few hundred (800km) away on a semi regular basis (5-6 times a year), mostly it's just the work commute. I've been caught in the odd snow storm, the previous FWD slid around the place a fair bit but was fine, I've never tried a RWD in the snow. Mountains are a fairly regular occurence, I'm in the passes until they close and then the lower passes until the higher ones open. The summer is mostly bike weather though.
The RS3 is lovely, but I'm trying to stay within the 5 year old bracket.

Now the X-Drive, that could fit the bill. I'd not noticed that half of them are actually AWD.
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Old 13.02.2020, 18:51
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How much do you drive in winter/snow? Mountains?

The BMW is for sure the most engaging car in that segment, but if you depend on your car working on snow would I consider a quattro: https://www.autoscout24.ch/de/d/audi...%26vehtyp%3D10
I always found BMW's good in snow as they had LSD, overtook loads of Audi A4's that were stuck as front wheel drive & heavy weight does not work well.
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I always found BMW's good in snow as they had LSD, overtook loads of Audi A4's that were stuck as front wheel drive & heavy weight does not work well.
I think the 1 series has an LSD as an option. I'd quite happily go for a 3 series but it would involve finding a new parking space due to size limitations. In honesty I'm looking for something like a little GT car for daily use.
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Well I could start a new thread but someone just reminded me this exists so I'm hijacking it, if not right please admin away.
My hot hatch has died, high mileage and too many issues to be economically viable to repair.

Now if you people had a choice between a 2015 Golf R or a BMW M135i, where which way would you go? Note, car is for all year so I've concerns about snow with the projector, but also not sure on the haldex on the peoples car.
Any other nice suggestions welcome around the 30k mark.
Side note, I've a size restriction due to a tiny parking space, anything longer than 4.5m starts to get very tight.
Audi /R/S3 Sportback quattro
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Old 14.02.2020, 15:58
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Audi /R/S3 Sportback quattro
Um...
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consider a quattro
I could suggest a sporty quattro... ticks almost all of the OP's boxes, too...

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  • must be an absolute driver's car (=RWD, 200+ HP). Doesn't need 400-700 BHP as chances of losing one's license is relatively high already.
  • budget around 10k (purchase minus resale value). Purchase limit ~40k CHF.
  • time limit 1 season (April to October)
  • must be able to seat an 1-yr-old in the back and the missus in the front. I understand that they probably don't want ride along 90% of the time, but it's one less argument if they could.
  • sports auto gearbox with paddles
  • fairly recent chassis (2010 upwards)
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