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Old 14.02.2020, 18:09
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Re: Sports car on a budget

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Audi /R/S3 Sportback quattro
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Or indeed the Golf R already mentioned. It's pretty much the same as an S3 under the skin, 4Motion=Quattro, DSG=S-tronic, ~300PS engine...
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Old 14.02.2020, 18:11
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Re: Sports car on a budget

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I could suggest a sporty quattro... ticks almost all of the OP's boxes, too...
You are aware that we are by not talking about a different car for a different userů right?

P.S> user137 was dead set on RWD...
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Old 14.02.2020, 18:26
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Or indeed the Golf R already mentioned. It's pretty much the same as an S3 under the skin, 4Motion=Quattro, DSG=S-tronic, ~300PS engine...
The AWD in the S3 and the Golf R is the Haldex system and not the torsen. So it's not the full time AWD.

I'm off to try a M135i xdrive to compare to the Golf and see how it all workd out.
The 2 liter 4 pot in the Golf is pushing some serious power, I'll see how the 3 liter six feels in the BMW.
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Old 14.02.2020, 18:40
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The AWD in the S3 and the Golf R is the Haldex system and not the torsen. So it's not the full time AWD.
And?

We have two cars so equipped, an Audi TT and a VW R36. Having driven many thousands of km on snow and icy roads, I have to say their AWD system is just superb. The TT has less of a tendency to apply the traction control in twisty bends than the much heavier Passat, but in both cases you can turn it off at the touch of a button for a more sporty and still very predictable cornering experience.

Mind you, for real full-time 4wd you can't beat the old Landrover Defender, with fully lockable diff it just goes on almost any surface. I've not looked at the new one in detail, but there's something about the mechanical simplicity of mine that I just love.
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The AWD in the S3 and the Golf R is the Haldex system and not the torsen. So it's not the full time AWD.
Disadvantage of Haldex is that it's a bit more expensive to drive as it needs oil changes more often than a Torsen differential.
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Re: Sports car on a budget

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You are aware that we are by not talking about a different car for a different userů right?
I don't understand this.

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P.S> user137 was dead set on RWD...
Mine is 4WD only, from 5th gear up....

But if you want more excitement, you can always switch the manettino to ESC OFF.
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