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Old 14.10.2021, 12:06
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Re: Driving ticket in Italy - unauthorized area

I doubt they speak English/German. If I were to ignore it and a Swiss debt collector would pick it up, would I have any impact on my permit extension/Betreibungsregister?
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Re: Driving ticket in Italy - unauthorized area

One more thing that I have just realized.

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if the vehicle is your property: the local police have 360 ​​days to send you the fine
If the car is rented: the local police have 360 ​​days to send you the fine but the period starts from the date of receipt of your data by the rental company. Based on the contract you have signed, rental companies may charge you the administrative costs incurred to provide the local police with your personal data, withholding the amount from the credit card you left at the time of rental. The Municipality of Bologna is not responsible for these expenses
I am the car owner. The date of the offence was 20th September 2020, signature date on the letter is 14th September 2021, but date of posting 8th October 2021 according to the online tracker. I received it only today.

Is my understanding correct that the date of posting matter, therefore it took more than 360 days to identify me?

Part of the letter reads: Reopening Date for Service Deadline: 7th April 2021. Reason for failure to give notice: recognized a violation in accordance with article 201c.

So WTF... Did they realize that I might've entered a traffic restricted area 6 months later?
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Re: Driving ticket in Italy - unauthorized area

Most probably legit provided they accept your login details.

Starting from Aosta's Twitter or FB page (@ComunediAosta) you go to
http://www.comune.aosta.it/
which says to pay online (pagamenti online, bottom right) via
https://www.comune.aosta.it/servizi-...gamenti-online
which in turn says to pay fines (pagamento contravvenzione) via
https://aosta.comune-online.it/web/p...polizia-locale
where you use the details you got in the letters to log in, plus your own plate number.

So unless Aosta's FB+Twitter pages have been spoofed (and apparently not been challenged for 11 years, I believe that remark is generated by FB/Twitter themselves), the fact that your plate number is part of the login data should keep you safe from fraudulent demands, and from paying for someone else.
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Re: Driving ticket in Italy - unauthorized area

Something similar happened to us in Florence re their congestion zone charging and we knew we’d accidentally drifted into it. However they didn’t send us the invoice for over a year. Spoke to an Italian friend living here who told us Italian authorities only legally have 1 year from date of infringement to send out an invoice & to ignore it. Never heard anything further…
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Re: Driving ticket in Italy - unauthorized area

I'm glad to hear that! Well... I decided to take a risk and not pay. We will see what happens, in the worst case they will hire a debt collector. Unlike France, Italy has no treaty with Switzerland. So maybe I will need to be careful when crossing the border. I actually moved canton recently so have different plates now .

With regard to the 360 days rule, I'm a bit confused. According to the Art. 201 that they cite in the letter the notification should be made within 360 days but paragraph 1-bis and "g" mention that ZTL are out of scope. Italian doesn't translate well into English so maybe I miss something.

https://www.aci.it/i-servizi/normati...iolazioni.html

In addition in the letter that I received they claim that they discovered the infringement only in April 2021 (why only now? Isn't the system automatic?). So I don't know whether this date counts or the date when I actually supposedly violated the law.
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With regard to the 360 days rule, I'm a bit confused. According to the Art. 201 that they cite in the letter the notification should be made within 360 days but paragraph 1-bis and "g" mention that ZTL are out of scope. Italian doesn't translate well into English so maybe I miss something.

https://www.aci.it/i-servizi/normati...iolazioni.html

In addition in the letter that I received they claim that they discovered the infringement only in April 2021 (why only now? Isn't the system automatic?). So I don't know whether this date counts or the date when I actually supposedly violated the law.
See aggiornamento(17). The way I understand it they appear to be too late either way as 150 days after April 7 gave them until about September 4th only.
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