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I use expensive summer tires, and I go through them fast.
1300 a set, and they last 3 seasons.

My cost per year is then approx 430 per year. The 110 you're mentioning is a bit over 25% increase in my annual tire cost which I do think is horrendous.

A normal sized tire, with long wear would easily be 500 per set and could easily go 5 seasons, so the cost of changing the tires would be MORE than the tires themselves.

If you have the space, a spare set of wheels makes absolute sense. I change my tires at my own schedule, without needing to book garage appointments, get replacement car for the day etc etc. Plus the capex for the spare set can be recovered to an extent if you bought a bit smartly.
You have the skills to do a quality job safely. It's not rocket science, but how many people can do it without hurting themselves or doing a poor job? We drive on these things at least at 120 km/h.

It may not be the most convenient thing for an specific individual, but the world is a better place when people pay others to take care of their wheels.
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Old 01.05.2020, 16:12
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I use expensive summer tires, and I go through them fast.
1300 a set, and they last 3 seasons.

My cost per year is then approx 430 per year. The 110 you're mentioning is a bit over 25% increase in my annual tire cost which I do think is horrendous.

A normal sized tire, with long wear would easily be 500 per set and could easily go 5 seasons, so the cost of changing the tires would be MORE than the tires themselves.

If you have the space, a spare set of wheels makes absolute sense. I change my tires at my own schedule, without needing to book garage appointments, get replacement car for the day etc etc. Plus the capex for the spare set can be recovered to an extent if you bought a bit smartly.
Garages appointment and replacement car? Is that a main dealer?

Nothing like that with the independent tyre-only garage I use. No appointment, I show up, they lift the car, swap the wheels (I have two sets, one set always stays there) and I'm gone in 5 min. Like a pit stop.

If I have to do it myself, it will take me at least 1.5h to do the swap. So 55 CHF to do the change myself I don't think it's worth it for the time to waste time on a weekend. And what do you do for balancing? Your wheels are never balanced if you mount them yourself.

Another 55 CHF and I don't have to store them in my garage, it's not a bad deal. I can't fill up for less than 120 CHF a tank
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Garages appointment and replacement car? Is that a main dealer?

Nothing like that with the independent tyre-only garage I use. No appointment, I show up, they lift the car, swap the wheels (I have two sets, one set always stays there) and I'm gone in 5 min. Like a pit stop.
For 220,- a year for storage and 2 swaps I can see they have spots open in the planning if you spontaneously drop by
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Old 01.05.2020, 16:32
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You have the skills to do a quality job safely. It's not rocket science, but how many people can do it without hurting themselves or doing a poor job? We drive on these things at least at 120 km/h.

It may not be the most convenient thing for an specific individual, but the world is a better place when people pay others to take care of their wheels.
How many people these days can use a torque wrench? Or even know what it is. Very few I would speculate.
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Old 01.05.2020, 17:02
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It may not be the most convenient thing for an specific individual, but the world is a better place when incompetent people pay others to take care of their wheels.
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How many people these days can use a torque wrench? Or even know what it is. Very few I would speculate.
I think majority of people who know what it is do not use them on wheels on the car.
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I think majority of people who know what it is do not use them on wheels on the car.
There's a lot of evidence of that on youtube
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I think majority of people who know what it is do not use them on wheels on the car.
Too tight you risk damaging the threads on the bolts, too lose and you risk losing a tire. Bolts should be re-torqued every time a wheel is changed.
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Re: A good reason to store your tires a home

I ❤ EF tire threads
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Old 01.05.2020, 18:13
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My son has found a place to keep his tyres for free... in my garage!
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Too tight you risk damaging the threads on the bolts, too lose and you risk losing a tire. Bolts should be re-torqued every time a wheel is changed.
I'm aware of all of that, but a lot of people who have proper torque wrenches are people who also use them at work and have a pretty good feeling as for what is to much or to little. I use them on "delicate" parts of the car never on wheels. (Something nobody did not even to long ago.)
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Re: A good reason to store your tires a home

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I'm aware of all of that, but a lot of people who have proper torque wrenches are people who also use them at work and have a pretty good feeling as for what is to much or to little. I use them on "delicate" parts of the car never on wheels. (Something nobody did not even to long ago.)
When I first started to drive, it was one of the questions on the practical exam “What is the first thing you do after changing a flat tire?” Answer: Go to a garage and have your wheel re-torqued. Or something similar, it was 47 years ago.
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Seems like their bad reputation overtook them.
They were a complete rip-off.

I asked the guy there one time why it used to 1 franc to put air in my tyres and now it's 3 francs.

He just shrugged and said "inflation".
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How many people these days can use a torque wrench? Or even know what it is. Very few I would speculate.
I actually do. Yes it takes 1-2 hours every 6 months but I am fine with it. Haven’t found any any service station doing it for less than 100 per year around Zürich. I have heard of some people paying 60-70 but I guess these are friendly prices cause I haven’t found any place with that price. If anyone knows any cheap place around Zürich please do let us know.
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Re: A good reason to store your tires a home

Sounds about average for this area as well. But the place that I go to wants f85 per season. That is what I meant by outrageous.

Not only is it expensive it locks you in to doing business with them.
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I pay my garage 35 every 6 months just to store the tyres which to me is cheap. I have never changed tyres in my life and not about to start now so it would be a huge inconvenience to have to store them at home/drive them back and forth from the garage in the back of my car. When they swap over tyres they also fully check over the car for me, put in more fluids, replace bulbs etc so worth it for me. Bills depends on what they do
I used to pay 30 2x a year. They never did any other service unless I asked and paid extra. Now I have a storage unit I do it myself. But it costs me much more in the end.

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Young guys in other countries may find cool to put a green LED light under the car, have not seen that around here.
I looked into this a few years ago and was very sad to learn I could not put pink leds on my car.

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How many people these days can use a torque wrench? Or even know what it is. Very few I would speculate.
Me! Jack, air gun thing and torque wrench. Check!
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Sounds about average for this area as well. But the place that I go to wants f85 per season. That is what I meant by outrageous.

Not only is it expensive it locks you in to doing business with them.



F85 twice a year to store tyres for you, to swap them over twice a year and balance them is far from outrageous, it is very reasonable. They don't have unlimited space and somebody has to spend the time changing them. Garages aren't not for profit you know
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Too tight you risk damaging the threads on the bolts, too lose and you risk losing a tire. Bolts should be re-torqued every time a wheel is changed.
Never seen one used when a tire centre changes tyres
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Old 02.05.2020, 12:28
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I actually do. Yes it takes 1-2 hours every 6 months but I am fine with it. Haven’t found any any service station doing it for less than 100 per year around Zürich. I have heard of some people paying 60-70 but I guess these are friendly prices cause I haven’t found any place with that price. If anyone knows any cheap place around Zürich please do let us know.
Wow, I can change the brake pads od 4 wheels in about 1 hour, that includes taking wheels on & off. Can't possibly take more than 5 minutes a wheel to change using the tools supplied with a normal car.
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How many people these days can use a torque wrench? Or even know what it is. Very few I would speculate.
I have 5 (one is digital), the smallest (1-10Nm) was the most expensive.

I never use them on car wheels, and only use the rattle gun to remove them.

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