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You can go normally through Austria-Germany-Slovenia (what I intend to do this Saturday), if you are a Croatian citizen.
And I believe Austria just announced that you can "stop also while in transit", which was forbidden until now.

I would choose that way any day against over Italy; even though Gotthard might be emptier than usual...
I'm trying to figure out if I could stop in transit on the 13th or 14th of June then magically stop transiting.
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However, Swiss still cannot shop in Italy. If they do it's a CHF 100 fine.
nitpick: the fine is not for shopping in Italy, but for travelling only for shopping.
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Old 03.06.2020, 16:05
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Re: Swiss border opening - current situations

The guy who cleaned my patio last Saturday came in from Austria for Whit weekend. But he was on this special "I gotta see my lover" permit (the lover being the neighbour).

I actually thought June 2nd was the day when things went back to normal between CH, F, D and AU and figured they put the date right after Pentecost to stop people from going wild.
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Old 03.06.2020, 22:12
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I'm trying to figure out if I could stop in transit on the 13th or 14th of June then magically stop transiting.
Didn't you have a mate telling you all the necessary steps?
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Old 04.06.2020, 08:34
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Didn't you have a mate telling you all the necessary steps?
Some of those steps involve doctors, I've not seen one in the last few years, I'm not about to start now!
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Old 04.06.2020, 09:07
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My flatmate flew for business reasons yesterday - the challenge is more that of getting a flight to go where you need to be. Where there was a direct flight to Budapest before, he had to go via Frankfurt to get there. Still quicker than driving there by car, which is what he did last week.

Face mask had to be worn on board and they seated passengers as far apart as possible.
There still are direct flights from Basel to Budapest, at least according to the Wizzair website. I'm just wondering what the point is if they're not letting anybody in or out.
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Old 04.06.2020, 09:45
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nitpick: the fine is not for shopping in Italy, but for travelling only for shopping.
so if you shop and go to the dentist you get no fine?
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Old 04.06.2020, 09:53
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so if you shop and go to the dentist you get no fine?
or throw the receipt away and say you shoplifted it all.
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Re: Swiss border opening - current situations

Do I understand correctly that the citizens of the non-EU/EFTA countries living in CH cannot visit neighbouring countries even after June 15 and have to wait until July 6?
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Old 04.06.2020, 10:02
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Do I understand correctly that the citizens of the non-EU/EFTA countries living in CH cannot visit neighbouring countries even after June 15 and have to wait until July 6?
No, it's RESIDENTS of the non-EU/EFTA countries, not CITIZENS.

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so if you shop and go to the dentist you get no fine?
If you shop you get a fine. Full stop. My neighbor has visited his children in Milan since the lockdown and shopped twice on his way back. He was fined on both occassions. They stop all Swiss registered cars and ask if they have any shopping. He was also stopped this weekend.

I have to go to Italy this afternoon so I will see what happens on the way back.
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Re: Swiss border opening - current situations

Hello everyone,
I drove from Zurich to Croatia this night so maybe my experiences will be useful.. No checks on Swiss-Italian boarder during the night (I was there at 23:50). There was probably a 'guard change' and nobody paid attention to those very few cars crossing.. Also there was no traffic at the Gotthard and no traffic at the border. On one tank I was able to cross from CH to Croatia, so no need to even stop in Italy (very empty highway by the way..) . But I had to pay tolls, toll employees in IT do not wear masks..
On the Slovenian-Croatian boarder 4-5 cars waiting (it was about 5:30 ) . They just checked my passport (I am EU Citizen, I am not Croatian) and asked me about my destination. Then asked me also about my phone number, which i provided. After crossing the border i got a short sms from the 112 number about the covid situation in Croatia and about respecting some guidelines from the pamphlet that i've received at the border (i did not receive any..).
That was it
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Old 04.06.2020, 13:06
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Re: Swiss border opening - current situations

Well Austria is open. So that means all this transit stuff is no more and I can happily drive over.

From a reputable source (german)
https://www.srf.ch/news/internationa...-grenzoeffnung

From the Local
https://www.thelocal.ch/20200603/aus...nd-on-thursday
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Old 04.06.2020, 13:28
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Well Austria is open. So that means all this transit stuff is no more and I can happily drive over.

From a reputable source (german)
https://www.srf.ch/news/internationa...-grenzoeffnung

From the Local
https://www.thelocal.ch/20200603/aus...nd-on-thursday
Yep. Still no shopping until June 15th though, folks. Switzerland follows the original plan, also for Austria.
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Old 04.06.2020, 13:31
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If you shop you get a fine. Full stop. My neighbor has visited his children in Milan since the lockdown and shopped twice on his way back. He was fined on both occassions. They stop all Swiss registered cars and ask if they have any shopping. He was also stopped this weekend.

I have to go to Italy this afternoon so I will see what happens on the way back.
Guy was stopped for having a newspaper that he bought with his coffee.

Was given the choice of bringing it back to Italy, or pay CHF 100!

https://www.tio.ch/ticino/cronaca/14...e-dogana-multa

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Guy was stopped for having a newspaper that he bought with his coffee.

Was given the choice of bringing it back to Italy, or pay CHF 100!

https://www.tio.ch/ticino/cronaca/14...e-dogana-multa

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But the guy kept his cool, went back, had another coffee and finished reading the newspaper, then left it behind for the "new regulars", (roflmao, I like that newspaper) of the coffee bar.

edit: Ah it's 20 minutes. More fun in Italian then.
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If you shop you get a fine. Full stop. My neighbor has visited his children in Milan since the lockdown and shopped twice on his way back. He was fined on both occassions. They stop all Swiss registered cars and ask if they have any shopping. He was also stopped this weekend.

I have to go to Italy this afternoon so I will see what happens on the way back.
The law is clear (link in ita/de/fr): loose translation, "at the re-entry in Switzerland a fine is applied if it is an evident case of shopping tourism and if crossing of the border is happening only for that reason. The fine is not inflicted because of the shopping, but for increasing the work of the border guards".
IMO you neighbor should've fought back harder with some evidence. Since there is no paper trail of when you went to Italy, I guess it comes down to providing some circumstantial proof.

I'm planning to go to Italy this weekend to visit friends and family, and definitely doing some shopping since I'm there. I'm planning simply to keep the receipt that shows that the purchase was done not the day of when I'm leaving Italy
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Guy was stopped for having a newspaper that he bought with his coffee.

Was given the choice of bringing it back to Italy, or pay CHF 100!

https://www.tio.ch/ticino/cronaca/14...e-dogana-multa

Tom
I think that the border guards wanted to nitpick, because in practice what the guy did was actually increasing the work of the guards without a good reason (he went for a coffee), but since a trip for a coffee is technically allowed, they made his life hard for the newspaper.

I am having hard time to imagine that they will give you problems if you obviously made a multi-day trip, and even if they do - just provide some proof
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You can drive without issues through Austria-Germany-Slovenia (what I intend to do this Saturday), if you are a Croatian citizen.
And I believe Austria just announced that you can "stop also while in transit", which was forbidden until now.

I would choose that way any day against over Italy; even though Gotthard might be emptier than usual...
Why only if you are Croatian citizen?
Did you drive German-Austria-Slovenia-Croatia?
It seems to be faster than going from Zurich via Gotthard and Italy.
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Re: Swiss border opening - current situations

Made our first trip to Italy, in fact first trip outside Switzerland, in almost 3 months yesterday to order some garden furniture. It's how I'd imagine someone feels when being released from prison!

We came back around 6.30pm crossing back at Ponte Chiasso, to a small queue. Italians all sitting in their booth, but the Swiss stopped every car for questioning and searching, except for us!!! Completely ignored us, not that we had anything at all but now I wish we had done some shopping!!!
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