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Re: What value vehicle for Swiss mountian roads?

I suggest:
  1. Find mountain of choice
  2. Go to the nearest garage and ask which make they work on
  3. Select model
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Re: What value vehicle for Swiss mountian roads?

What about the balls-of-steel-car: Lada Niva
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Old 03.09.2020, 17:04
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Re: What value vehicle for Swiss mountian roads?

Suzuki Jimny. Good value, reliable and every mountain town has several of them. Mechanics should know them very well.

Need to sleep? It can carry a tent, sleeping pad and bag.

Need to carry stuff? Roof rack, hitch rack/box or for really big stuff pull a trailer.
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Re: What value vehicle for Swiss mountian roads?

Look what the true locals, those which live there year round, drive.

From my observation one of the most versatile car is indeed the Fiat Panda 4x4. Old as well as new ones. You drive up some remote valley all the way up to the last alpage, and there it is: a Fiat Panda used by the local farmer.

Another small car is the Suzuki Swift 4x4. Unfortunately Subaru no longer makes the Justy.
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From my observation one of the most versatile car is indeed the Fiat Panda 4x4. Old as well as new ones. You drive up some remote valley all the way up to the last alpage, and there it is: a Fiat Panda used by the local farmer.
We have a '98 Panda 4x4, and have a short road (200m) to our rustico where it is needed in case of mud, snow, or ice.

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I suggest:
  1. Find mountain of choice
  2. Go to the nearest garage and ask which make they work on MOST
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This. This is wise indeed. With one word added.



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Re: What value vehicle for Swiss mountian roads?

It is common to see Subaru in the Swiss mountains.
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I suggest:
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  2. Go to the nearest garage and ask which make they work on
  3. Select model

Good idea but I would like to spread my wings and visit other mountains too. I guess if it works on my lower mountain, it should work on other higher ones too. Will it climb Matterhorn too?


The Panda 4x4 looks sweet for a tiny car.



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Good idea but I would like to spread my wings and visit other mountains too. I guess if it works on my lower mountain, it should work on other higher ones too. Will it climb Matterhorn too?


The Panda 4x4 looks sweet for a tiny car.




One word of advise, whatever you buy ensure it has an arm rest between the drivers and the passenger seat. I know that most smaller cars do not have them and personally I think its a very bad decision by the manufacturer/s. I drove one (rental) without it and my right shoulder was numb after some time. This is only if you plan on going for long drives on autoroutes (+Cruise control )

I do not think it will be an issue for shorter drives.
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Re: What value vehicle for Swiss mountian roads?

Land Rover, either Defender of Discovery 3 or 4.
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Land Rover, either Defender of Discovery 3 or 4.
Expect huge repair bills.
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Land Rover, either Defender of Discovery 3 or 4.

Have you ever spotted one outside the city?
Better get a Landcruiser.
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Good idea but I would like to spread my wings and visit other mountains too. I guess if it works on my lower mountain, it should work on other higher ones too. Will it climb Matterhorn too?


The Panda 4x4 looks sweet for a tiny car.



The one in the photo isn't tiny, our older model is.

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Expect huge repair bills.
If you find a D3 still running now, it won't be that cheap and will have had everything go wrong that could go wrong by now..... I lost one to gearbox failure at around 180'000km
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Talking of design. I did find the discontinued Toyota FJ Cruiser SUV clean and beautiful, atleast the front end.

It’s pretty hard to find a bad Toyota... but you managed ;-)

1. Was clearly build “exterior design first” and is far less practical than any of their normal models.
2. Much worse visibility from the drivers seat than in a regular Taliban Tank, erm, land cruiser...
3. I believe this wasn’t officially imported to the EU but an US model? Either way- it’s super rare so expect higher parts prices and longer waits for repairs

Simply put: Swiss mountains do not require SUVs as Swiss roads are well maintained. Given your transportation needs and plans to sleep in the car: look for a larger station wagon with all wheel drive. Audi A6/BMW 5/Benz E Series.... Skoda Octavias, Subaru Foresters,... all fit the bill.
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Land Rover, either Defender of Discovery 3 or 4.
I did almost 200k km in 3 years in a D4 and it was the best car out there. Faultless.

At around 250k radiator started to leak and was quoted 15k to pass the MFK so I ditched it.
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Re: What value vehicle for Swiss mountian roads?

As I said earlier in the thread, I know a no of wealthy people who have the Fiat Panda 4x4 Cross in the mountains, looks like it's the best around unless you want to impress your neighbours in Zug.
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As I said earlier in the thread, I know a no of wealthy people who have the Fiat Panda 4x4 Cross in the mountains, looks like it's the best around unless you want to impress your neighbours in Zug.
I agree but your rich mates don’t sleep in their cars like the OP wants to.
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Re: What value vehicle for Swiss mountian roads?

What about reliability? Don't Italian cars and specially Fiat break down a lot?
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