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What value vehicle for Swiss mountian roads?

As I am planning to maybe move to remoter region of Switzerland, I would most probably require a vehicle to survive. I haven't driven for decades though so I will take lessons all over again etc

Some of my requirements-

1- Must be able to climb Swiss mountain roads
2- Bang for the buck
3- Low maintenance and very reliable
4- Brand that is well supported in Switzerland
5- Don't have a family so number of seats not important but space for transporting my things very important.
6- Should have enough space to spend a night or two in it.


Budget as cheap as possible but maybe 20k? What am I looking at? Minivan? SUV? What sized engine? Hybrids any good?


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Re: What value vehicle for Swiss mountian roads?

Skoda Octavia Combi 4x4
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Re: What value vehicle for Swiss mountian roads?

4WD or AWD needed for the snow. I have a Mini Countryman which does just fine for example... prob a bit small for you. Go to Autoscout, enter 4WD/AWD and your price limits and see what comes up. Ford Kuga, Mazda CX5 etc could be something.
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Re: What value vehicle for Swiss mountian roads?

A Hyundai Qashqai.
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Re: What value vehicle for Swiss mountian roads?

Fiat Panda cross 4x4 seems to be the car of choice for many people in the mountains who could afford to spend more, however a narrow car is so useful passing on single track roads.

There is very little 'need' for 4x4, at 1000m there will probably be about 4 days when it would be useful for a couple of hours before the road is cleared, unless you have a very steep private road, most locals have crappy little FWD cars.
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Re: What value vehicle for Swiss mountian roads?

SUVs are maybe better for high ground clearance and 4WD/AWD. But be aware that AWD systems in most city SUVs are not that much better than regular cars.

Look at what the locals use in that area. First find where you want to move, then choose the car.

Don't sneer at a Dacia Duster.
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Don't sneer at a Dacia Duster.
Thats the Police vehicle of choice in the French Alps.
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Re: What value vehicle for Swiss mountian roads?

Or a Subaru
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Or a Subaru
I was just about to type that. Make sure you stay classy with golden rims on it!
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Re: What value vehicle for Swiss mountian roads?

A Lancer Evo if you want to have fun.
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Fiat Panda cross 4x4 seems to be the car of choice for many people in the mountains who could afford to spend more, however a narrow car is so useful passing on single track roads.

There is very little 'need' for 4x4, at 1000m there will probably be about 4 days when it would be useful for a couple of hours before the road is cleared, unless you have a very steep private road, most locals have crappy little FWD cars.
Very true. I bought a VW Polo off the Post Office some years ago. It's never let me down (I live at 1300m) even though the last few hundred metres of road are only snow-ploughed every few days. The chains have come in handy though. A couple of neighbours have trailers which the rest of us can borrow for transporting firewood and the like.

Post Office cars are always very well maintained
https://www.autoscout24.ch/de/hci/li...219&filter=223
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A Hyundai Qashqai.
Or a Nissan Santa Fe
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Re: What value vehicle for Swiss mountian roads?

List is long (considering reliability, ease of maintenance, COO and specially to sleep in )

- Mitsubishi Outlander
- Nissan Quashqai
- Subaru Outback
- Skoda Octavia combi 4x4
- Suzuki Grand Vitara
- VW Tiguan are OK

Most who have BMW X-drives and Volvo AWDs are not quite happy with their capabilities in snow.

For what you have said I would suggest to go for a 4WD or AWD than regretting afterwards
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Re: What value vehicle for Swiss mountian roads?

You guys are great. Btw these modern car's front end design seems to be getting uglier with every release.

Subaru Outback coversion

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List is long (considering reliability, ease of maintenance, COO and specially to sleep in )

- Mitsubishi Outlander
- Nissan Quashqai
- Subaru Outback
- Skoda Octavia combi 4x4
- Suzuki Grand Vitara
- VW Tiguan are OK

Most who have BMW X-drives and Volvo AWDs are not quite happy with their capabilities in snow.

For what you have said I would suggest to go for a 4WD or AWD than regretting afterwards
These would be cars for wealthy pensioners living in Switzerland, not someone who wants to live on the cheap.
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Re: What value vehicle for Swiss mountian roads?

4x4 is rarely useful but there are instances of steep roads with some ice e.g. in cramped villages and there it could come in handy. Also you might happen to be driving and all of a sudden, snow. Various electronic controls on new cars have made it much easier to drive on snow too.
The traditional car for "valley people" was the subaru (all models), however it's expensive and new cheap electronic controlled 4x4 came in the market, and roads are cleaned much better, now I would say skoda octavia is the most common choice, mostly because of value. You can probably find a lot more in the used car market too.
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Re: What value vehicle for Swiss mountian roads?

Talking of design. I did find the discontinued Toyota FJ Cruiser SUV clean and beautiful, atleast the front end.

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Talking of design. I did find the discontinued Toyota FJ Cruiser SUV clean and beautiful, atleast the front end.

They are good, but fuel consumption is bad.. very bad
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Re: What value vehicle for Swiss mountian roads?

When it can be smaller, I would go for a Suzuki with 4x4. Extremely reliable brand. Cheap to run, but if they do break parts can be expensive (as they breakdowns rarely happen parts are typically not stocked).

The Jimny looks nice...
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Re: What value vehicle for Swiss mountian roads?

Panda 4x4 Country, more ground clearance than the standard Panda 4x4.

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