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Sat Nav recommendations

So our car does not have an in built sat nav. We have an absolutely useless Sat Nav from Garmin, which was not cheap when we bought it roughly 5 years ago. It drives me nuts as it can never find where we want to go. Unless you have an exact address then no chance. For example, you can't just enter "Basel Airport" or a just a town name, even if you have an address sometimes it won't accept it.

Reluctant to buy a new one, I decided to use apple maps on my phone. Finding a location is super easy, but the actual driving directions are not as good, for example it doesn't show a detailed picture of which lane to be in at a complicated junction or roundabout.

So I'm looking for recommendations for either a really good sat nav app for the phone, or a decent sat nav unit that actually allows you to find "places" and not just specific addresses.

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Re: Sat Nav recommendations

I would have said tomtom all day long, right up to the point they changed the user interface and now its terrible
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Re: Sat Nav recommendations

Try the GoogleMaps app on your phone.
Directions seem to work pretty good, and you can drop a pin and navigate to it.
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I would have said tomtom all day long, right up to the point they changed the user interface and now its terrible
I'm wondering if the Tom Tom app is any good?
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Re: Sat Nav recommendations

Try Waze, owned by Google and a lot better than Maps. You get real time updates from other users (accidents, roadblocks, detours, etc.)
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Re: Sat Nav recommendations

I have the Tomtom GO 5000, generally happy with it... I specifically chose this model as it has a built-in simcard to receive live traffic info without incurring data roaming cost on my phone.
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Re: Sat Nav recommendations

Apple website says lane guidance is available in Switzerland. Anyhow, try google maps or waze (in this case the feature is new so not necessarily available everywhere yet). If you always have internet when you drive it does not make sense to buy a sat nav anymore as:
- official updates on traffic conditions are not always timely and often do not include "standard" queues on roads outside of motorways
- maps get old fairly quickly
- they are still expensive
IMHO they are only useful if you go often abroad where you may not have cheap internet.
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I'm wondering if the Tom Tom app is any good?
iirc the tomtom phone app is now subscription based so ends up costing a fortune, plus of course data roaming if you're abroad

I agree with the other too, waze is much better then google maps, google maps has a very 'odd' algorithm for planning routes, hey unmade mountain track, that'll be fine, turn left
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plus of course data roaming if you're abroad
I have unlimited data in Europe, US & Canada. So using phone not a problem.
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Re: Sat Nav recommendations

Google maps is OK, certainly does the job well, but lacking some options, perhaps. Can't choose the voice, for example, and it doesn't show the current speed limit.

Waze, I hated on the several occasions I've tried it. Like Google, it wants you to be online all the time. Unlike GoogleMaps, it doesn't seem to let you download the route for offline use. Very much set up as a 'community' thing, but not as good as a dedicated app like Camsam for camera and roadworks warnings.
Just downloaded it again, and still hate it. No 'Options' menu that I can find, and it's talking to me in German. I'm sure there must be a way to change it, but life's too short to try and work out unintuitive user interfaces/

Igo, I use in two cars on Android head units I've installed. The later version on one is annoying in that it interferes with music if you have voice directions on, the earlier version I need to update the maps on, but is great apart from that. What I particularly like is that you can have it display your actual speed alongside the limit for the road you're on, with a threshold (I set it at +5%) at which it will display in red to show you're speeding. All offline, and the maps take up quite a bit of space, so maybe best to run from a dedicated SD card.

MapFactor Navigator is one I used to use quite a lot. All offline, and free maps can be used, or paid ones for more up-to-date or accurate info. Not sure why I don't use it now, except that I have unlimited data worldwide so the offline capability is no longer an issue.
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Re: Sat Nav recommendations

Got a phone? Buy a screen sucker clamp for it and download HereWeGo / a free app.

Adding country maps is free.
I downloaded the Australia maps for a visit there and it worked faultless in a hire car...
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Got a phone? Buy a screen sucker clamp for it and download HereWeGo / a free app.

Adding country maps is free.
I downloaded the Australia maps for a visit there and it worked faultless in a hire car...
only free on android, for apple 1 map is free the rest are chargeable
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Old 06.10.2020, 17:58
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Re: Sat Nav recommendations

We've been very happy with our TomTom 4SL50. It has no problems working with just town/city names; it'll just direct you to what it considers the centre of said place to be. Picks up the speed limits, has "danger zones" for speed cameras where it's not legally allowed to tell you exactly where they are, etc.
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Old 06.10.2020, 18:02
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Re: Sat Nav recommendations

Our car has a built-in Sat Nav, but we never pay for that in a rental car. We use the MapsMe app. But download maps in advance!

It's also great for hiking to know where you are.
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Re: Sat Nav recommendations

The Tomtom app is very good. I would 100% recommend it. It isnít as expensive as others make out. I think maybe £30/40 for 3yrs subscription? That includes updates, traffic warnings etc... You can download maps, based on country region too to save data but as you say you have unlimited data then itís fine. Personally I donít use it as have built in Sat Nav but I used to use it on my old car before the new one I have now. I downloaded it to try on Apple CarPlay a few weeks ago and itís still just as good. Only downfall compared to Gmaps and Apple Maps is no satťlite version of the maps but the rest is just as good. If you want a free version then Googlemaps is by far the best. Hate Apple maps and the way it doesnít do 3D maps properly, always looks like itís a birds eye view and never seems to be zoomed in at the correct level.
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The Tomtom app is very good. I would 100% recommend it. It isnít as expensive as others make out. I think maybe £30/40 for 3yrs subscription?
There are dozens of free apps available, some of which are mentioned above. I can't for the life of me see why anyone would pay for this.
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Re: Sat Nav recommendations

On Android there is also Sygic which in the free version is perfectly usable SatNav with downloadable maps that work offline without a network connection. There are some nice quite cheap premium services you can add on should you wish
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Re: Sat Nav recommendations

What's your phone's Google Maps lacking that it's not sufficient?
You can also download portions of the map to be "Offline", if roaming is of concern (and it's not, as you wrote).

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and it doesn't show the current speed limit.
Yes it does! With the latest update on Android.
It was another "finally!" moment for me, another one was when they added the current speed some time ago.
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What's your phone's Google Maps lacking that it's not sufficient?
TBH, I think it's just this:
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Yes it does! With the latest update on Android.
It was another "finally!" moment for me, another one was when they added the current speed some time ago.
Cool. Update applied, it may now have become my in-car satnav of choice.
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What's your phone's Google Maps lacking that it's not sufficient?
You can also download portions of the map to be "Offline", if roaming is of concern (and it's not, as you wrote).
Also a good idea when you go somewhere where you might not have any reception.

If life traffic is important than nothing beats Google in my opinion.

Another Android and Apple option is HERE we go https://wego.here.com/ . With this you can download full country maps. It is my back up option.

If your car supports Android Auto or Apple CarPlay than a phone based systems is one of the most flexible solution. Unfortunatly Google only recently anounced that it will open Android Auto for 3rd party navigation apps (so far only Google Maps and Waze are possible) https://android-developers.googleblo...-for-cars.html

A thing to consider is the underlying map data and if you use multiple products that they compliment each other and do not use the same actual data.
For example Garmin uses the data from Here.
Sync uses data from OpenStreetMap.
Bing uses TomTom.
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