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Old 17.11.2020, 11:03
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Re: Motorbike vs Car

In my opinion it's not the comfort aspect of sportsbikes that make them questionable as commuters, its the lack of visibility.
On a naked bike you tend to have a better view of what's happening around you with a neutral head position. The Multistrada/BMW XR/Tiger category are better again, you're higher up with a better view for situational awareness.

Sportsbikes are beautiful machines, but for the amount of power you can get out of most bikes nowadays, they're becoming more and more track focused machines with nakeds/streetfighters being as fast up most mountain passes as them.

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In my opinion it's not the comfort aspect of sportsbikes that make them questionable as commuters, its the lack of visibility.
On a naked bike you tend to have a better view of what's happening around you with a neutral head position.
This is a very valid point. Plus, if you're on a more upright bike, sitting in traffic or at lights is a more comfortable position as well.

This site (https://cycle-ergo.com/) is handy for seeing what kind of posture you'd have with various bikes.

I think that the key features I'd look for in a commuting bike are (in no particular order):
- wind/weather protection (screen, some sort of fairing)
- upright seating
- top case or other secure method of carrying stuff
- economical purchase/maintenance costs
- common model (my friend has a bike that is no longer manufactured, so getting parts and finding someone to work on it is difficult)
- engine power for motorway travel
- light and "flickable" for quick side street maneouvers
- electrical output for heated grips* and heated jacket



* I can't recall if this has been mentioned, but it is really easy to add aftermarket heated grips to just about any motorcycle. These are amazing, just one step under "heated jacket" amazing, and should be high on your list of modifications
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Re: Motorbike vs Car

I live near Basel and commute daily (well, I did, back in the age when people worked in offices), year-round, on my bike, which is a Triumph Sprint GT (sports tourer). Snow is almost never an issue on my short commute to Basel, but the OP said he will be commuting 35 km -- in which direction?

I agree with most of the other posts. I suspect that snow is unlikely to be a problem around Basel. There is still salt, though, so you'll need to wash the bike frequently. Maintenance can be cut by installing a Scottoiler (they are superb, once you set them correctly so as not to have oil gushing all over your chain), as Tom mentioned. I've never felt the need of a heated jacket, but again, my commute is short -- however, I do indulge in day-long rides on weekends, even in winter, and still don't miss a heated jacket. I have heated grips which get pretty hot, but can't really feel the heat through my winter gloves.

I would not ride year-round on a supersport bike. Winter conditions, even without snow, are not compatible with such bikes, imo. There's not a lot of point in rocking 200+ PS if you can't use it. There are plenty of bikes more suited to commuting. You can buy mine, for example. I'm upgrading to something a "little" bigger.
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Re: Motorbike vs Car

22 yards is on to something. If you don't want to go to a high-sitting dual which would be an ideal commuter, I think a sport-touring could be a great compromise between sports bike and a commuter friendly one.

The Ducati Supersport seems to be lean more on the sporty side, but still very liveable for example
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