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Load wider than the vehicle

Hi there.
I have a Ford F150 pickup truck. I'm purchasing a truck camper unit to be placed in the bed of the F150. I'm Dutch but I drive a lot through Switzerland when we travel south.
I've heard in Switzerland is not allowed to drive a vehicle carrying a load (as in my case would be the camper unit) which is wider than the width of the vehicle.
In my case the camper unit would be 100mm wider than the F150 width (without mirrors).
Can you please help understand how does that work exactly?

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Re: Load wider than the vehicle

I don't know the legal situation, but if you're talking about a properly fitted unit that sticks out just 5cm on each side I wouldn't be worried. I can't see them stopping you for something that is safe and clearly intended to be used as such.

Surely after fitting it just looks like a camper van, and a relatively narrow one compared to many of them.
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Hi there.
I have a Ford F150 pickup truck. I'm purchasing a truck camper unit to be placed in the bed of the F150. I'm Dutch but I drive a lot through Switzerland when we travel south.
In general: If a Dutch vehicle is according Dutch regulations you can also drive it abroad.

Correct, In Switzerland a load might not be wider than the vehicle or trailer (exemptions apply Art. 73 VRV) . In Switzerland, such a camper top would be approved as part of the vehicle and would accordingly be not considered as a load.

If you want a reliably answer you have to contact the Federal Road Office, they are normally quite helpful with questions about obscure details the law and regulations.
https://www.astra.admin.ch/astra/en/...s-and-map.html
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Re: Load wider than the vehicle

Thanks both for your answers.
I did contact the Federal Road Office. And I'll share their feedback of course.

Should other members of the forum have knowledge or experience on this subject I'd be happy to hear.

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Re: Load wider than the vehicle

When you are on the road and notice there are more than four or five vehicles behind you, it is time to pull over and let them pass. Is it the law? No, but it is common courtesy.
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Re: Load wider than the vehicle

The Federal Road Office was quick. Here below their reply.
In my case the camper will be secured to the bed of the truck using heavy load ratchets. It won't be bolted to the chassis. Therefore it seems to suggest the camper shall not be wider than the vehicle. I will be 100mm out :-(

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"Aufgrund des internationalen Übereinkommens vom 8. November 1968 über den Strassenverkehr (sog. Wiener Übereinkommen), welches von den meisten europäischen Ländern ratifiziert wurde, dürfen ausländische Fahrzeugführer mit ihren Fahrzeugen im internationalen Verkehr der Vertragsstaaten grundsätzlich verkehren (gilt auch für holländische Fahrzeuge in der Schweiz). Voraussetzung dazu ist, dass sie die im Anhang 5 des Übereinkommens festgelegten technischen Mindestanforderungen sowie die nationalen Bau- und Ausrüstungsvorschriften ihres Immatrikulationslandes erfüllen.

Zu beachten hat der Fahrzeugführer hingegen die Verkehrsregeln (z. B. über Abmessungen, Höchstgeschwindigkeit, Gewichte, usw.) desjenigen Landes, das er gerade befährt. Der Artikel 73 Absatz 2 der Verkehrsregelnverordnung (VRV; SR 741.11) besagt, dass die Ladung mehrspurige Motorfahrzeuge und Anhänger seitlich nicht überragen darf. Wenn die Wohnkabine als Ladung betrachtet wird, geraten Sie mit der genannten Bestimmung in Konflikt.
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In my case the camper will be secured to the bed of the truck using heavy load ratchets.
Something like this?

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The Federal Road Office was quick. Here below their reply.
In my case the camper will be secured to the bed of the truck using heavy load ratchets. It won't be bolted to the chassis. Therefore it seems to suggest the camper shall not be wider than the vehicle. I will be 100mm out :-(
In gist what I said. (I fell a bit smug ). But devil in detail is how it is attached to the car and thus if is considered a load or part of the vehicle.
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Re: Load wider than the vehicle

The camper unit is secured and locked in the bed using two turnbuckles at the front end side of the bed. And two turnbuckles at the rear end side of the bed. When I say bed I mean loading hooks which are secured through the bed all the way down to the chassis to provide maximum strength. It is a proven way to secure the camper. But it’s not a one piece with the truck welded down to the chassis which is showing on the vehicle registration.
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