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Good, stay away from those Sharans and Tourans. You started with the intension to buy a fine 6-cylinder BMW, and you have climbed down the ladder enough already

The Alltrack is a weird and awful looking car. I doubt it does anything better than the normal 4WD version. And don't get me started on white leather.
Ha ha. Thanks for the feedback! Yes, I agree that in certain cars white leather is an absolute 'no no', although inside the usual Suisse noir-mobile I quite like the contrast when it's well done, and when there's a bit of walnut in evidence too.

The Passat ticks all the sensible boxes and is a head over heart decision. Slightly annoying that it just creeps over the 120g CO2 per km threshold that would qualify it for a significant tax break here in Vaud, but can't have it all.
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The Audi 3.0 TDI is awful in comparison to the 30d.
He He. we were talking about capacity and space. 30d was out of shopping list due to this reason.
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He He. we were talking about capacity and space. 30d was out of shopping list due to this reason.
Driving pleasure, you said. I have both the 3.0 TDI and the 30d in the garage, and there is no competition. For me (+3) even the 3 series works just fine, don't understand what piles of stuff people take with them all the time.
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As a tall person (192) I find that Citroen has the best room and adjustments for the driver. Even a C3 is very roomy in the front.
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Thanks everyone for the tips! My advice to you, Mike, would be to postpone those toddler days as long as possible. Ha ha. No, it's great but it does change your outlook and priorities considerably. And did I mention how much nappies cost, not to mention the need as a modern man to muck in changing them?! Hideous

In the end, I'm close to sealing the deal on a 2014 2.0TDI Passat Estate 177ps with circa 150K and a good FSH. To be honest, I didn't really consider the Touran or the Sharan - perhaps I should - but the wife and I are both used to an Estate, and a Passat update feels like a similarly comfy pair of jeans just with an updated buckle!

One interesting car I also considered briefly was the first generation Passat Alltrack, which seems to hemorrhage value second hand/never really appealed to people, and would be an interesting proposition on Swiss roads. There is a lovely petrol 211ps version with white leather available ATM from 2012, but it's a tad thirsty. In any case, seems like we're sticking with tried and tested!

Sharan ist discontinued. It was built on the second-to-last Passat platform.
It's to be merged with the T (which will ultimately be morphed into the ID.BUZZ).

The Sharan is heavier than the Passat and I assume the newer platform couldn't accommodate that extra-weight....

Euo6d then killed it for good.
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Sharan ist discontinued. It was built on the second-to-last Passat platform.
It's to be merged with the T (which will ultimately be morphed into the ID.BUZZ).

The Sharan is heavier than the Passat and I assume the newer platform couldn't accommodate that extra-weight....

Euo6d then killed it for good.
Not true. You can even configure it on the VW website.
The Alhambra is still alive too.
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Driving pleasure, you said. I have both the 3.0 TDI and the 30d in the garage, and there is no competition. For me (+3) even the 3 series works just fine, don't understand what piles of stuff people take with them all the time.
Was comparing driving pleasure between better capacity cars. Piles of stuff...normally comes along with kids specially if you are driving long distance.

I had to sell my 30d to move to a bigger car.

I have several cars in my company fleet and used it for several short and long distance trips. A6 is one of the cars.
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If you are looking for space then why not try Touran or Sharan. It is more practical than Passat.

For driving pleasure i will surely opt for an A6 3.0 Diesel.
Because they are mini-vans, not cars!

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Thanks everyone for the tips! My advice to you, Mike, would be to postpone those toddler days as long as possible. Ha ha. No, it's great but it does change your outlook and priorities considerably. And did I mention how much nappies cost, not to mention the need as a modern man to muck in changing them?! Hideous
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Sharan ist discontinued. It was built on the second-to-last Passat platform.
It's to be merged with the T (which will ultimately be morphed into the ID.BUZZ).

The Sharan is heavier than the Passat and I assume the newer platform couldn't accommodate that extra-weight....

Euo6d then killed it for good.
Good!
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Not true. You can even configure it on the VW website.
The Alhambra is still alive too.
Only the underpowered 1.4l petrol engine.
The Diesels are gone.

If you want one, I'd get one of the 2.0 177-ish HP 4x4 Diesels.
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Re: Buying Second-Hand Diesel Car

Revisiting this thread. After 2 months with a B7 Passat I've decided I can live without the massive boot but I can't live with the horrible manual gearbox, disappointing ride and turning circle of an oil tanker. The B5 I sold before I bought this was a far superior car. Have seen the error of my ways and I'm back out there shopping for a second-hand BMW 330d Touring with X-drive
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And just bought a nice 330d Xdrive Touring - 2011 with 127,000 km - up in Solothurn. Pale metallic blue and white 'Dakota' leather. Budget leather line I know but I like it a lot. Test drive blue me away, 6-cylinder engine was a dream versus the tin pots 4s I've driven before. Torque was incredible.

Slightly sad that these cars are going the way of the dinosaurs - as it strikes me that BMW really refined the diesel lump to the point of perfection in cars like this, but in any case it's a keeper, at least for a few years, and for my last ICE, not a bad one.
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And just bought a nice 330d Xdrive Touring - 2011 with 127,000 km - up in Solothurn. Pale metallic blue and white 'Dakota' leather. Budget leather line I know but I like it a lot. Test drive blue me away, 6-cylinder engine was a dream versus the tin pots 4s I've driven before. Torque was incredible.

Slightly sad that these cars are going the way of the dinosaurs - as it strikes me that BMW really refined the diesel lump to the point of perfection in cars like this, but in any case it's a keeper, at least for a few years, and for my last ICE, not a bad one.
Good choice. Apart from the colours
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Ha ha - yes, I remember I think you commented on the white leather before. Wouldn't be my first choice but goes with this car for some reason. Actually really impressed by the cabin space inside it - felt a lot roomier than the F11 530d that test drove four or five months ago, strangely enough.
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Ha ha - yes, I remember I think you commented on the white leather before. Wouldn't be my first choice but goes with this car for some reason. Actually really impressed by the cabin space inside it - felt a lot roomier than the F11 530d that test drove four or five months ago, strangely enough.
Haha, really bigger than the F11? Guess you must be in love.
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Ha ha. Mostly with my wife, but there's a new place in my heart for the BMW!
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