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Re: BMW F11(530xd) vs F31(320xd) considerations

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Just the optional comfort seats make the 5 the better car.
both specimen have sport seats

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As both are in the end of their life cycle, I would buy an older one that don't lose that much value.
loss of value is what bothers me too. I'd skip the F31 completely if it was not me who has been driving it since 8th kilometer of its life, so that is my assurance and a selling point.
But the F11's owner seem to be a trustworthy person, also F11 has one more year of manufacturer's guarantee(the owner extended it last year, by BMW 3 years are included and 2 you can buy for a grand or so).
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I think I would go for the F31, its newer, less km, cheaper to run, still in warranty and although not as nice as the 6cyl, its perfectly adequate.

I had an F31 330d for 4 years and drove several times to London with no comfort issues whatsoever. Its quiet, refined and very economical (I could squeeze 1000km on a single tank). Twice I got a 5 series loaner from the garage and I didn't find it as engaging a drive on the twisty bits. For sure on the highway its a little more refined and wafts along, but the 3 series is the overall best allrounder and the benchmark for D-segment cars.

those are nice 19' wheels and the colour is stunning, howcome no tinted windows?

F11 has one more year of warranty.
I once squeezed 1000km on one tank on a F10/manual, but F11 has a smaller tank.
I don't agree on F31's quietness, taking a call in it while driving can be problematic noise-wise. In comparison to F1x it has a strange feeling of being thinner everywhere, starting from door-closing and on the road you hear more noises. However this is also related to kombi, sedans are quieter.
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Re: BMW F11(530xd) vs F31(320xd) considerations

OP, it sounds like you know you want the F11 and are just looking for someone to approve of this. Approved!
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OP, it sounds like you know you want the F11 and are just looking for someone to approve of this. Approved!
ha-ha, almost!

I clocked some 60tkms on F10+F11(520s!) in the past and it was a blast, but those and the current ones were all leased vehicles, so always new, all covered, no hassle.
It is for the first time I am looking into owning a car. Since I not mechanically sound I decided to either get the vehicle which I already know. But theeeeen had a look around and boom, here I am.

I decided not to go for 10-15 years old Porsches or some other posh make, my experience with bimmers was always good, except may be for that 220 GT, which started giving strange sounds in the transmission, but then I left the company and don't know how bad was it in the end.

May be another feasible option would have been a 15-20 year old bimmer, but then again, I am mechanically weak.
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Old 27.02.2021, 15:55
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Re: BMW F11(530xd) vs F31(320xd) considerations

I believe the 3 series has a much stronger aircon though. Most of the ladies in them seem to need to wear a headscarf as it is so cold in there...
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those are nice 19' wheels and the colour is stunning, howcome no tinted windows?
A good question, I was so overbudget that I had to trim off as many options as I could. What was important to me was the estoril blue paint, professional nav, 19" alloys, HK sound, panorama roof and adaptive suspension, everything else I could live without

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I don't agree on F31's quietness, taking a call in it while driving can be problematic noise-wise. In comparison to F1x it has a strange feeling of being thinner everywhere, starting from door-closing and on the road you hear more noises. However this is also related to kombi, sedans are quieter.
Do you mean tyre roar, wind noise or engine noise? I definitely noticed a difference in cabin noise when I had the 19" summer wheels with runflat tyres. My winters were 18" with standard tyres and that brought down the transmitted road noise by some decibels.

Anyway, whichever you choose you will have a solid car and an enjoyable drive.
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Do you mean tyre roar, wind noise or engine noise? I definitely noticed a difference in cabin noise when I had the 19" summer wheels with runflat tyres. My winters were 18" with standard tyres and that brought down the transmitted road noise by some decibels.

Anyway, whichever you choose you will have a solid car and an enjoyable drive.
I have the same rims and runflat tyres! more wind noise I guess, I can't tell which one but it is noisier inside of a 3-er. Long trips in F31 seem to tire me out faster as compared to my previous F11, but may be I was just younger
On the other hand I don't do 40tkm anymore as I used to, barely 10-12tkm, which is good for Gretas

Still an enjoyable ride, but that 3.0L is so appealing
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I have the same rims and runflat tyres! more wind noise I guess, I can't tell which one but it is noisier inside of a 3-er. Long trips in F31 seem to tire me out faster as compared to my previous F11, but may be I was just younger
On the other hand I don't do 40tkm anymore as I used to, barely 10-12tkm, which is good for Gretas

Still an enjoyable ride, but that 3.0L is so appealing
There is no way the driver has less space, is less comfortable in the 3 compared to the 5. It is the same set-up. Car size matters if you need space for family, dogs, etc but not for the driver.

There is a bit of noise from wind in my 3, and I think it comes from this shark fin antenna on the roof. But 5 station has the same, right?

And yes, the 3.0 is fantastic.
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There is no way the driver has less space, is less comfortable in the 3 compared to the 5.
Um, yes? You know that cabin space is not subjective but can easily measured? For longer journeys is a bigger cabin more comfortable but a 3 series is totally fine for most people for most drives.
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Um, yes? You know that cabin space is not subjective but can easily measured? For longer journeys is a bigger cabin more comfortable but a 3 series is totally fine for most people for most drives.
And for the pros, there is seat adjustment.
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There is no way the driver has less space, is less comfortable in the 3 compared to the 5. It is the same set-up. Car size matters if you need space for family, dogs, etc but not for the driver.

There is a bit of noise from wind in my 3, and I think it comes from this shark fin antenna on the roof. But 5 station has the same, right?

And yes, the 3.0 is fantastic.
the 5-er is 0.5 meter wider, it offers more comfort by definition, let alone a better interior.
I am snug in F31 cabin, 5-er is roomier, I feel like I am in a bus

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the 5-er is 0.5 meter wider
50 cm would be considerable, but it’s more like 6 cm
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the 5-er is 0.5 meter wider, it offers more comfort by definition, let alone a better interior.
I am snug in F31 cabin, 5-er is roomier, I feel like I am in a bus

Just buy the damn F11.
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Um, yes? You know that cabin space is not subjective but can easily measured?
It's surely both. Different subjects might have different views.
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It's surely both. Different subjects might have different views.
Sure. All major brands seem to offer sedans in a t-shirt approach: small, medium and large. But that might be subjective if you happen to be a midget or an American...
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Re: BMW F11(530xd) vs F31(320xd) considerations

If it's mainly up to two people driving 3-series would be more than adequate.
The 320xd is also more than enough to tackle Swiss roads and their limits. Even with the 2L engine, it will be punchy and with a more nimble flickable chassis than the 5 series, more fun to drive. (fuel consumption is stellar, and easier to park ;-) )

So F11 is a more of a "family car", if you regularly carry passengers in the back, do long journeys, carry more luggage - than you want this one. It is generally a more comfortable car, and if the above apply it makes no sense to sacrifice and "cram" into the compact 3 series.
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Re: BMW F11(530xd) vs F31(320xd) considerations

Off the bat.. the newer one.. but I would really look at the specs and see which has the driving features I like.

On 2019 models you might even have self driving help eg lane steering (I had it once on a loan car whilst mine was in service).

Simple things like folding mirrors, rear view camera, big screen, sound system, version of navigation, adaptive steering - the options with BMW are endless, makes a big difference between cars.

Also consider, the 5 series is more luxury that the 3er... leathers, materials etc

https://www.mdecoder.com/ if you have the Vin, you can get all the details with this look up page
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Off the bat.. the newer one.. but I would really look at the specs and see which has the driving features I like.

On 2019 models you might even have self driving help eg lane steering (I had it once on a loan car whilst mine was in service).

Simple things like folding mirrors, rear view camera, big screen, sound system, version of navigation, adaptive steering - the options with BMW are endless, makes a big difference between cars.

Also consider, the 5 series is more luxury that the 3er... leathers, materials etc
the 5-er specced better, although the packages are very similar. That is why 5-er seems to be a good deal as they both cost now almost the same now, and in the future will both drastically lose value.


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I went farther than that and asked a buddy who works for BMW to yield me service history based off the VINs. Nothing major(engine+drivetrain are intact) but some interesting details came up.
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Re: BMW F11(530xd) vs F31(320xd) considerations

Coming late to the party here but went through precisely your dilemma. Test drove both the F11 530D (2014), bought a Passat B7 (lol, don't ask!) then test drove and fell in love with an E91 (2011 so late series) 330d Touring. I personally preferred the drive to the newer 530, and you can get a lot of car for your money if that's at all an issue - I paid circa. 12K for a car with 127K km. Interested to know your decision in the end. For us, we could have bought a newer, 'fancier' diesel - but ultimately we really fought shy of plunging a lot of money into a an ICE at this point in time, given the way that diesel is being penalized by various governments. We're going to run the E91 into the ground - to the extent that in 5 years I won't be that bothered that we won't get anything back in terms of sell on. With a newer diesel car, I'd be nervous.
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Coming late to the party here but went through precisely your dilemma. Test drove both the F11 530D (2014), bought a Passat B7 (lol, don't ask!) then test drove and fell in love with an E91 (2011 so late series) 330d Touring. I personally preferred the drive to the newer 530, and you can get a lot of car for your money if that's at all an issue - I paid circa. 12K for a car with 127K km. Interested to know your decision in the end. For us, we could have bought a newer, 'fancier' diesel - but ultimately we really fought shy of plunging a lot of money into a an ICE at this point in time, given the way that diesel is being penalized by various governments. We're going to run the E91 into the ground - to the extent that in 5 years I won't be that bothered that we won't get anything back in terms of sell on. With a newer diesel car, I'd be nervous.
it did not pan out with the 530d, the seller pissed me off.
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