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Replacing lost FZ Ausweise for newly bought Moped/Mofa

So we acquired a moped project off Tutti.ch, and it came without a logbook. Most mopeds seem to for some reason. It is a 49cc 1990s Piaggio Si (like the old Post models, but not actually one of their old ones) and has functional pedals.

Is there a simple process to get paperwork and a number plate for it?
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So we acquired a moped project off Tutti.ch, and it came without a logbook. Most mopeds seem to for some reason. It is a 49cc 1990s Piaggio Si (like the old Post models, but not actually one of their old ones) and has functional pedals.

Is there a simple process to get paperwork and a number plate for it?
What's a logbook?

Do you mean a grey-card?

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What's a logbook?

Do you mean a grey-card?
That's the old British term, deprecated more than 50 years ago but still in informal everyday use, for what is now officially called the Registration Document, so yes, the Grey Card equivalent.

I've no idea how easy it would be, but you'd need to start by finding the VIN plate, should be one on the chassis and one stamped on the engine, I think. Then you'd need to take this to the police to find out that the reason it has no documentation is because it was nicked. If you're lucky and it wasn't then they'll steer you through the process, I'm sure.
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Re: Replacing lost FZ Ausweise for newly bought Moped/Mofa

Kanton Schwyz says the test for a new Fahrzeugausweis must be done by an authorised dealer, interestingly enough the Verkehrsamt seems
to not do those checks. See here for a list of the authorised dealers.

It looks like you can get plates and insurance for the first year from the dealer and the Verkehrsamt, the annual renewal will be done by the Verkehrsamt only.

You probably want to enquire about the price beforehand, it won't hurt to mention beforehand that the Fahrzeugausweis got lost. If they refuse to give a quote by phone make sure you get one once they see the vehicle.
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Kanton Schwyz says the test for a new Fahrzeugausweis must be done by an authorised dealer, interestingly enough the Verkehrsamt seems
to not do those checks. See here for a list of the authorised dealers.

It looks like you can get plates and insurance for the first year from the dealer and the Verkehrsamt, the annual renewal will be done by the Verkehrsamt only.

You probably want to enquire about the price beforehand, it won't hurt to mention beforehand that the Fahrzeugausweis got lost. If they refuse to give a quote by phone make sure you get one once they see the vehicle.
Brilliant. Thanks! That seems to answer it! Interestingly on Swiss supplied mopeds the frame often has the Type (Typenshine) stamped in. Ours has it followed by the manufacturers logo, so it seems stamped by the manufacturer in our case. The frame then has a small removable plate riveted in by the seat post with the VIN number stamped on it.
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