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Re: Fighting parking ticket

Gotta love the folk who miscomprehend, judge, get called out on it then dismiss their miscomprehension as if it never happened or dismiss it in advance of getting called out.

The offense is not of not moving the car. The offense is of "not leaving" the space or "not putting it into traffic" depending on the language. You could leave the space for 2 hours, come back and park by chance in exactly the same position as before. Would two photos two hours apart showing the car in the same place be proof that the car was never used? "Hey the wheel nuts are inthe same place!" Similarly two photos two hours apart with the wheel nuts in different places doesn't prove the car "has left the space".
What's open for clarification here is precisely what "leaving the space" should mean. Taking the German language certainly driving from one space to the next is not "being put back into traffic". That would clearly be "taking the piss". Similarly driving on the road outside of the parking field part to a space 30m away could also reasonably be considered as "not being put into traffic". Driving around the block? Driving to a main road? Going out onto the motorway? The problem could be avoided by simply having a plate "no return within 2 hours" *but* that wouldn't stop the practice of parking on your driveway on the same street then putting your car in the parking place. Would that be a thing?

I'm completely with the OP on this one - "rules is rules" and they're there to be played until someone changes the rule. Whether you think playing the game is unfair or immoral in some way is your personal and subjective *judgement* and unless you're a rule maker doesn't count for much.
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I reverse the direction of the car when I move it. This doesn't work in Germany where cars need to face the same way.
Here as well if parking is allowed on both sides of the road.
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Yes this I have looked into also since they are only 30 CHF a month, the problem being that I am somehow right on a zone boundary, so my neighbour is eligible for a pass to park on our street but I am not. The zone I am in all the parking spaces are quite far and down the hill from where I live.
What I would do is contact your commune (Pully) and tell them about living on the zone boundary and ask them if they could issue you one for the you would like to use to park. They can't say more than no. And they can check where you live and you are on the boarder you might get lucky. Just be friendly. It won't hurt to ask.
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CHF 40 for 6 months of "illegal" parking - not to bad methinks!!!
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Old 24.03.2021, 16:25
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What I would do is contact your commune (Pully) and tell them about living on the zone boundary and ask them if they could issue you one for the you would like to use to park. They can't say more than no. And they can check where you live and you are on the boarder you might get lucky. Just be friendly. It won't hurt to ask.
This is what I have done now. I put in an application for a permit in the zone I want to park in rather than the one I am eligible to park in. I'll see what they say.
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Old 24.03.2021, 16:41
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Re: Fighting parking ticket

One longer-term solution might be to contact a fellow car owner who regularly parks close to your place (surely there are other people working from home who park around you), exchange numbers, and agree to swap cars every so many hours.
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This is what I have done now. I put in an application for a permit in the zone I want to park in rather than the one I am eligible to park in. I'll see what they say.
Hooray! Please be sure to come back and complain if they don't give you one ;-)
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Hooray! Please be sure to come back and complain if they don't give you one ;-)
I find life is a lot better if you ignore the advice of the Americans and the British ;-) they tend to have lots of opinions but poorly run countries.
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Old 24.03.2021, 18:13
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I find life is a lot better if you ignore the advice of the Americans and the British ;-) they tend to have lots of opinions but poorly run countries.


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Old 24.03.2021, 18:18
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I find life is a lot better if you ignore the advice of the Americans and the British ;-) they tend to have lots of opinions but poorly run countries.
I hear though that the parking regulations are excellent.
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I hear though that the parking regulations are excellent.
indeed, very clear instructions.

https://camo.githubusercontent.com/2...6d696e2e6a7067

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/371025...s-matt-sprake/

Actually the no return might have been useful for the OP.
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Re: Fighting parking ticket

But WFH is not mandatory. It is only a recommendation, so OP should demand his/her employer to return to the office and car would be in use. No more problem
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Old 24.03.2021, 21:32
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But WFH is not mandatory. It is only a recommendation, so OP should demand his/her employer to return to the office and car would be in use. No more problem
My understanding was WFH was mandatory where it is possible.
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But WFH is not mandatory. It is only a recommendation, so OP should demand his/her employer to return to the office and car would be in use. No more problem
I'm not sure how you are interpreting "requirement to work from home", or in french "télétravail obligatoire."

"Requirement" and "obligatoire" don't sound like a recommendation to me.


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Homeworking compulsory: Homeworking is compulsory in all areas where it is possible to work at home without disproportionate effort.

Maybe I can argue finding legal parking is indeed disproportionate effort?
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I'm not sure how you are interpreting "requirement to work from home", or in french "télétravail obligatoire."

"Requirement" and "obligatoire" don't sound like a recommendation to me.


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Homeworking compulsory: Homeworking is compulsory in all areas where it is possible to work at home without disproportionate effort.

Maybe I can argue finding legal parking is indeed disproportionate effort?
It would be the first time that not doing something is disproproprionate effort.
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There are a number of spots (12ish) on the street behind my house which I park in that have free parking for 6 hours between 8 am and 7 pm. Normally this isn't an issue because I take the car to work. During the work from home mandate I have been working from home, so I go and take the dog for a short walk around 2 to move the car and change the timer. I usually drive around the block looking for a different spot, if I don't find one I usually just park back in the spot I left which for the last 6 months hasn't been an issue.

Today I got a parking ticket claiming I changed the timer without vacating the spot, which is not true since I vacated it for a couple minutes before returning to it.

Can I fight this? Where am I supposed to park when the government forces me to work from home? So frustrated.
- Nobody forces you to have a car .
- Rental of space is possible within reasonable distance .

and it's not legal to return to the spot again hoping that 'clock starts from zero' - been there , done that , paid police ticket .
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Nobody forces you to have a car .
And nobody changed the parking rules after you got the car.

Unless you never have a day off without using the car, or a day sick, then it looks like you would always have played this game. But now the odds of getting caught went up because you do it every day.
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I'm not sure how you are interpreting "requirement to work from home", or in french "télétravail obligatoire."

"Requirement" and "obligatoire" don't sound like a recommendation to me.


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Homeworking compulsory: Homeworking is compulsory in all areas where it is possible to work at home without disproportionate effort.

Maybe I can argue finding legal parking is indeed disproportionate effort?
I can't work at home as I require too much equipment to fit in what limited space I have to work at home (4x 2m high racks, that other people need to use, plus other stuff).

I can't work at the rustico as there is no internet, and only 50W power, and I would need to run the generator otherwise.

But, no parking problems even with 4 cars and 7 motorcycles!

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Re: Fighting parking ticket

To wrap this up. Unlike many on this forum, police we very helpful and understanding.

Ticket waved and they made an exception to the parking zone rules for me and gave me a pass in the zone I wanted to park in.
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To wrap this up. Unlike many on this forum, police we very helpful and understanding.

Ticket waved and they made an exception to the parking zone rules for me and gave me a pass in the zone I wanted to park in.
Thank you for reporting back!
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